Is there something wrong with you??
Tell us what gunman did you put down?
How many gun fights have you been in?
Tell us what school did you stop the nut with a gun as he's shooting children?
Please tell us of this life and death situation you were in and you didn't panic!!
Pissy much?
The facts are that children get shot in schools because they are gun free zones and the poor good guys have to run toward the killers with nothing to defend themselves or the kids. A principle and at least two teachers died just that way in the recent elementary school shooting. They did not lack courage or strength or a strong protective instinct or common sense or physical agility... they lacked an equalizer in the form of a firearm. Do you realize that almost all mass shootings have been in gun free zones?
After the Luby's shooting in Waco in 1991 there was no doubt in my mind that a single person with a weapon could have made a difference. My husband's family is a law enforcement family and guns have always been part of my married life... Would I panic... I don't think so. I've never been in a shoot out but I've been around a lot of gunfire up close and personal. I grew up in the Compton area of Los Angeles, I've been in more than a couple of life or death situations. From other life experiences I can say with certainty that I'm not the panicky sort. In example, I took a fall 25 feet and totally shattered my right lower leg... My husband loves to tell the story of how I turned my own foot back to straight, cut off my own shoe with a pocket knife to inspect the bones poking out of it, and got it splinted and wrapped all while waiting for EMS. I have five boys, we've had an injury or three around here... no panic.
I carry my firearm daily. I have put 400 rounds through it in the last week and will put another couple hundred through it Saturday at a tactical range. If I need to use it I believe I will not hesitate... but all that aside... I'd take anyone with even minimal training with a gun to come to my defense if I were the person laying under a table at Luby's or hiding in a classroom closet waiting for some maniac to come shoot me in the head. Heck I'd take Cindy and she seems like the sweetest person ever... because in that situation if someone is going to blow my head off I'd rather have it be someone who did it by mistake while trying to save my life than someone who did it on purpose because of their own sick agenda.
The facts are that children get shot in schools because they are gun free zones and the poor good guys have to run toward the killers with nothing to defend themselves or the kids. A principle and at least two teachers died just that way in the recent elementary school shooting. They did not lack courage or strength or a strong protective instinct or common sense or physical agility... they lacked an equalizer in the form of a firearm. Do you realize that almost all mass shootings have been in gun free zones?
After the Luby's shooting in Waco in 1991 there was no doubt in my mind that a single person with a weapon could have made a difference. My husband's family is a law enforcement family and guns have always been part of my married life... Would I panic... I don't think so. I've never been in a shoot out but I've been around a lot of gunfire up close and personal. I grew up in the Compton area of Los Angeles, I've been in more than a couple of life or death situations. From other life experiences I can say with certainty that I'm not the panicky sort. In example, I took a fall 25 feet and totally shattered my right lower leg... My husband loves to tell the story of how I turned my own foot back to straight, cut off my own shoe with a pocket knife to inspect the bones poking out of it, and got it splinted and wrapped all while waiting for EMS. I have five boys, we've had an injury or three around here... no panic.
I carry my firearm daily. I have put 400 rounds through it in the last week and will put another couple hundred through it Saturday at a tactical range. If I need to use it I believe I will not hesitate... but all that aside... I'd take anyone with even minimal training with a gun to come to my defense if I were the person laying under a table at Luby's or hiding in a classroom closet waiting for some maniac to come shoot me in the head. Heck I'd take Cindy and she seems like the sweetest person ever... because in that situation if someone is going to blow my head off I'd rather have it be someone who did it by mistake while trying to save my life than someone who did it on purpose because of their own sick agenda.
Sister your from the LBC????? I went to the Compton swap-meet all the time back in the day when stationed in Long Beach in the really early 80's and 90's
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The facts are that children get shot in schools because they are gun free zones and the poor good guys have to run toward the killers with nothing to defend themselves or the kids. A principle and at least two teachers died just that way in the recent elementary school shooting. They did not lack courage or strength or a strong protective instinct or common sense or physical agility... they lacked an equalizer in the form of a firearm. Do you realize that almost all mass shootings have been in gun free zones?
After the Luby's shooting in Waco in 1991 there was no doubt in my mind that a single person with a weapon could have made a difference. My husband's family is a law enforcement family and guns have always been part of my married life... Would I panic... I don't think so. I've never been in a shoot out but I've been around a lot of gunfire up close and personal. I grew up in the Compton area of Los Angeles, I've been in more than a couple of life or death situations. From other life experiences I can say with certainty that I'm not the panicky sort. In example, I took a fall 25 feet and totally shattered my right lower leg... My husband loves to tell the story of how I turned my own foot back to straight, cut off my own shoe with a pocket knife to inspect the bones poking out of it, and got it splinted and wrapped all while waiting for EMS. I have five boys, we've had an injury or three around here... no panic.
I carry my firearm daily. I have put 400 rounds through it in the last week and will put another couple hundred through it Saturday at a tactical range. If I need to use it I believe I will not hesitate... but all that aside... I'd take anyone with even minimal training with a gun to come to my defense if I were the person laying under a table at Luby's or hiding in a classroom closet waiting for some maniac to come shoot me in the head. Heck I'd take Cindy and she seems like the sweetest person ever... because in that situation if someone is going to blow my head off I'd rather have it be someone who did it by mistake while trying to save my life than someone who did it on purpose because of their own sick agenda.
It is my informed opinion that this powerful and well thought out response pretty much kicked Lights arguments derriere up oneside of the street and down the other.
It is my informed opinion that this powerful and well thought out response pretty much kicked Lights arguments derriere up oneside of the street and down the other.
I hope and pray she's never is in a position the sky marshal found himself in, having said that, telling stories about living in Compton ca is a joke.
You laugh and say she kicked my ... With a well thought out response.
Where in this well thought out response did she even come close to explaining the situation where she drew her gun and fired at a perp without panicking?
She inferred that for 30+years she has been in shootings and never panicked and shot a kid.
Using Her claim of 400 hundred rounds shot at paper targets this last week as proof that she wouldn't panic in a real life and death situation is a laugh!! Paper targets don't shoot back!!
I hope and pray she's never is in a position the sky marshal found himself in, having said that, telling stories about living in Compton ca is a joke.
You laugh and say she kicked my ... With a well thought out response.
Where in this well thought out response did she even come close to explaining the situation where she drew her gun and fired at a perp without panicking?
She inferred that for 30+years she has been in shootings and never panicked and shot a kid.
Using Her claim of 400 hundred rounds shot at paper targets this last week as proof that she wouldn't panic in a real life and death situation is a laugh!! Paper targets don't shoot back!!
The references were simply to state that
A) Yes I have been exposed to gunfire at the 'street' level. Scary as heck.
B) I do all I can to be prepared to use my firearm, practicing at both paper-target and tactical ranges- not much more a person can do even if preparing for a role in law enforcement or war.
C) I know myself to be a level headed person with a lot of life experience as proof.
By your standard, I will assume, there is no person anywhere qualified to carry a firearm unless they have possibly come home from war having made no errors in any live fire situation.... oh wait... even they could mess up... OK...NO person.
And my position AGAIN is that I'd take a 12 year old with a .22 trying to save my life if he were the only one available... and I assume that so would most folks... Of course if you'd rather be shot by some nut-job... I'm happy to let you.
A) Yes I have been exposed to gunfire at the 'street' level. Scary as heck.
B) I do all I can to be prepared to use my firearm, practicing at both paper-target and tactical ranges- not much more a person can do even if preparing for a role in law enforcement or war.
C) I know myself to be a level headed person with a lot of life experience as proof.
By your standard, I will assume, there is no person anywhere qualified to carry a firearm unless they have possibly come home from war having made no errors in any live fire situation.... oh wait... even they could mess up... OK...NO person.
And my position AGAIN is that I'd take a 12 year old with a .22 trying to save my life if he were the only one available... and I assume that so would most folks... Of course if you'd rather be shot by some nut-job... I'm happy to let you.
"RATHER BE SHOT" what a stupid statement.
You spouted off but refuse to tell the truth.
You claim you were "exposed" to gun fire. I guess I can claim as you have, I was exposed to gun fire many many times going to fellowship meetings at br Whites in Bellflower. I guess I was "exposed" when visiting my best man at my wedding oh BTW he lived in Compton. I may have been "EXPOSED" but not one bullet came my way as I assume the same for you or you would have told us of your proud moment.
Were you in the line of fire or not. If not you don't know what you would do!!
"RATHER BE SHOT" what a stupid statement.
You spouted off but refuse to tell the truth.
You claim you were "exposed" to gun fire. I guess I can claim as you have, I was exposed to gun fire many many times going to fellowship meetings at br Whites in Bellflower. I guess I was "exposed" when visiting my best man at my wedding oh BTW he lived in Compton. I may have been "EXPOSED" but not one bullet came my way as I assume the same for you or you would have told us of your proud moment.
Were you in the line of fire or not. If not you don't know what you would do!!
I'm not sure what your big nasty 'tude is all about, nor do I really care... You asked for my experiences and I gave an honest account of them... I lived where there were frequent 'drive-by' type shootings in my youth... just walking to school was pretty dangerous some days. It was bad enough to make my parents abandon their home and move to a rental in another town after their front windowns were shot out. I was a child and while I remember it well, clearly I was not a participant.
I believe I am qulified to carry a firearm and the state of Texas has agreed by issuing my CHL. If you don't like that, tough noogies.
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I'm not sure what your big nasty 'tude is all about, nor do I really care... You asked for my experiences and I gave an honest account of them... I lived where there were frequent 'drive-by' type shootings in my youth... just walking to school was pretty dangerous some days. It was bad enough to make my parents abandon their home and move to a rental in another town after their front windowns were shot out. I was a child and while I remember it well, clearly I was not a participant.
I believe I am qulified to carry a firearm and the state of Texas has agreed by issuing my CHL. If you don't like that, tough noogies.
#1 Obtaining a permit to carry concealed in the State of Texas requires a 10 hour Concealed Handgun License Certification Course which is outlined by the State Department of Public Safety and covers the use of force, gun safety, gun storage, dispute resolution and Texas laws regarding use of force as a defense and licensing requirements.
#2 Obtaining a permit to carry concealed in the State of Texas requires completion of the course, qualifying with a handgun at the range, and passing a 50 question test. The applicant then applies and pays a fee to the State which completes a background check and completes the issuance of the license.
#3 You need a basic knowledge of your handgun to qualify on the range, shooting center of mass a total of 50 rounds at a B27 target from 9 feet, 21 feet, and 45 feet.
Wow you answered 50 Questions paid a FEE and shot 50 rounds at a paper target
The point is not the automatic rifle but a sky marshal shot and missed.
The NRAs good man with a gun is the answer to a bad man who has a gun is bull.
What a joke and these nuts want teachers to have guns in a classroom??
How many children will die when a teacher panics and shoots the kids?
Ever shot at someone? I haven't. It's not like in the movies where every bullet hits the target. Sometimes you miss, whether by a lot or just a little. It happens. What you're missing is what happened after the bad guy was confronted by a good guy with a gun. The bad guy killed himself. What would have happened if the bad guy wasn't confronted by a good guy with a gun? We won't know. But I'm glad, and I'm sure others in the airport were glad for the good guy with the gun who put his life at risk to confront the bad guy. Even if he fired a shot and missed.
Real life isn't Hollywood action movies.
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Originally Posted by Cindy
An air marshal shot at a man in a crowded airport? That's just stupid, the first thing to make sure of when you are firing a gun is, where is the round going. SMH
We should consider facts before accusing the agent of going Rambo.
1) He didn't hit anyone; 2) being an Air Marshall I would only assume that he would be aware of his surroundings and target carefully.
The FoxNews, Houston Chronicle, KHOU, and MyFoxHouston articles all vary in detail. FoxNews and KHOU both have the shots fired at 5. MFH has a twitter feed with someone there claiming he heard 20 shots; it also has two United employees saying there were only a few shots fired. An HC article was very limited in info, and didn't have a number of shots.
From the info available I gather that the suspect came in, shot a round into the ceiling, sat down; a Homeland Security agent came out of an office, confronted him, discharged his weapon and the suspect shot himself in the head
Nowhere would it appear the HS agent went Rambo shooting up the place. It reads as though he was measured and careful in his confrontation.
It is my informed opinion that this powerful and well thought out response pretty much kicked Lights arguments derriere up oneside of the street and down the other.
Many teachers are already overworked, and now we are to add gun training and range practice to their workload? And are we to expect that with a million or more guns in classrooms that there will be no accidents? Ever? Arm even a few teachers at each school, and I bet you there will be 10 times or more deaths by accidental firings, or misses when there is an incident, than take-downs of assailants by teachers. At least 10 times.
Granted, there may be a deterrent factor, too. But still. Accidental deaths. Count on them.
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