I believe that both were out of order, unless there was an interpretation to what the man was speaking.
1 Corinthians 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
Unknown Tongues in church, should only be for interpretation.
That doesn't mean stop, that means, pray until God sends the interpretation.
I believe that both were out of order, unless there was an interpretation to what the man was speaking.
1 Corinthians 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
Unknown Tongues in church, should only be for interpretation.
That doesn't mean stop, that means, pray until God sends the interpretation.
How is he that has a tongue know whether or not there was someone present that can interpret
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How is he that has a tongue know whether or not there was someone present that can interpret
Sometimes you won't know. but if there is a person in the church that has the gift of interpretation, then those present will know.
I have seen a message come forth, and no one interpreted, then another person would bring a message, and then the interpretation came. I often wondered, if the second message brought more clarity.
But if a person speaks in tongues and no one interprets, and then another, and possibly another, then there shouldn't be anyone else, speaking in tongues.
Paul did say,
Quote:
1 Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God
Sometimes you won't know. but if there is a person in the church that has the gift of interpretation, then those present will know.
I have seen a message come forth, and no one interpreted, then another person would bring a message, and then the interpretation came. I often wondered, if the second message brought more clarity.
But if a person speaks in tongues and no one interprets, and then another, and possibly another, then there shouldn't be anyone else, speaking in tongues.
Paul did say,
.
How will they know that person has an interpretation? How are supposed to know that person even has that gift until its used the first time?
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
How will they know that person has an interpretation? How are supposed to know that person even has that gift until its used the first time?
If you are in your home church, it is usually the same person or person's that interpret each time. And if it is the first time, the gift will announce itself by interpreting what was said.
Seems to me, that people are not seeking the gifts, as Paul instructed. And sometimes, people are afraid to speak up. All of the gifts should be in each church. I believe that God gave the gifts to help guide the church.
One time a message came forth, and I thought I understood the first few words, but because I had never done that before and I didn't have the rest of the message, I didn't say anything. But when someone else brought the interpretation, it started out just like I had understood it.