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[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Sarah

No, I haven't, Baron. I was just reacting to your statement that 'those who hold to the water/spirit doctrine feel they have no need for the cross'.

I'll never understand why some of you want to leave Jesus hanging on the cross. He died for us...but he surely didn't stay dead!

Jesus died for our sins, he was buried, and arose. We die out to our sins by repentance, we're buried with him in baptism, and arise to walk in a newness of life through the Holy Ghost!

It's an insult to say that we ignore the cross...

I know your talking to Baron, but during my stint in the org during the 80's it was baptism in Jesus name, tongue talking, and strict adherence to holiness standards, and obeying the "man of gawd!" that saved. Forget about the cross. I NEVER heard grace mentioned.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I know your talking to Baron, but during my stint in the org during the 80's it was baptism in Jesus name, tongue talking, and strict adherence to holiness standards, and obeying the "man of gawd!" that saved. Forget about the cross. I NEVER heard grace mentioned.

I believe you are accurately describing the experience you had, just as I am accurately describing mine.

[Praxeas]

I hear grace and the cross often

[tv1a]

Grace and the cross with conditions are preached in UPCI pulpits.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I hear grace and the cross often

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Grace and the cross with conditions are preached in UPCI pulpits.

Yes, conditions like repentance and total surrender to the Lordship of Christ. How terrible!!

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Grace and the cross with conditions are preached in UPCI pulpits.

Yeah, probably because their are conditons to salvation.

The crowd that seems to love Fudge and his nonsense are the same crowd that embrace the anythign goes, just believe (mental ascent) and you are saved idiocy in most cases.