Who Is The Holy Spirit?

seekerman · #1 10-02-2013, 09:38 PM

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The Spirit is God the Father according to Jesus in John 4. Again, according to Jesus.

OK. Is the spirit of Elijah, Elijah?

Originalist · #2 10-06-2013, 07:28 AM

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OK. Is the spirit of Elijah, Elijah?

The Holy Spirit is God, per God.

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While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Acts 13:2)

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7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.

10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. (Hebrews 3:7-12)

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16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”[c]

17 Therefore,

“Come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.”[d]

18 And,

“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”[e] (2Cor 6:16-18)

Too bad Seekerman wasn't around back then to straighten out Paul.

seekerman · #3 10-06-2013, 10:17 AM

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The Holy Spirit is God, per God.

No argument there, brother.

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Too bad Seekerman wasn't around back then to straighten out Paul.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. We, as Jesus was, are temples of the Holy Spirit.

You are aware that Jesus' Father and God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit?

Originalist · #4 10-06-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

No argument there, brother.

In a previous post, you said that the Holy Spirit was "God's divine power."

When i pointed out that the Spirit was the Father, you replied..".OK. Is the spirit of Elijah, Elijah?"

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Originally Posted by seekerman

I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. We, as Jesus was, are temples of the Holy Spirit.

You are aware that Jesus' Father and God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit

First of all, an "anointing" does not make one the temple of God. Passages referring to us being God's temple are in reference to the new birth, something that could only happen post Calvary.

Secondly, Christ is not indwelt by the Spirit in the same sense we are. Our indwelling is for regeneration due to sin. Jesus had no sin. He was born indwelt by the Spirit, but in a different way. From his conception, all the fulness of the Godhead dwelt in him bodily.

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For in Christ there is all of God in a human body; (Col 2:9)

seekerman · #5 10-09-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

In a previous post, you said that the Holy Spirit was "God's divine power."

When i pointed out that the Spirit was the Father, you replied..".OK. Is the spirit of Elijah, Elijah?"

Right. And?

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First of all, an "anointing" does not make one the temple of God. Passages referring to us being God's temple are in reference to the new birth, something that could only happen post Calvary.

The indwelling of the Spirit makes on a temple of God. Jesus was indwelt with the Spirit of God when He was anointed by His God and Father, God the Father. He was filled with the Spirit.....

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

By the way, Jesus wasn't full of Himself nor did He lead Himself into the wilderness.

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Secondly, Christ is not indwelt by the Spirit in the same sense we are. Our indwelling is for regeneration due to sin. Jesus had no sin. He was born indwelt by the Spirit, but in a different way. From his conception, all the fulness of the Godhead dwelt in him bodily.

While Jesus was indwelt with the fullness of the Godhead, this wasn't until He was anointed with the Holy Ghost by His God and Father.

Originalist · #6 10-10-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Right. And?

The indwelling of the Spirit makes on a temple of God. Jesus was indwelt with the Spirit of God when He was anointed by His God and Father, God the Father. He was filled with the Spirit.....

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

By the way, Jesus wasn't full of Himself nor did He lead Himself into the wilderness.

While Jesus was indwelt with the fullness of the Godhead, this wasn't until He was anointed with the Holy Ghost by His God and Father.

Since I already addressed these points, and since nothing you've said here is relevant to the topic, I defer to my previous comments. But I will add one point in regerence to Jesus' infilling of the Spirit....

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how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

His anointing was not the same as our infilling which is needed for regeneration. But I agree that Jesus is God's temple. All the fullness of the Godhead dwells in him BODILY. While we are stones in God's temple, all the fullness of the Godhead does not dwell in us bodily.

seekerman · #7 10-10-2013, 10:33 AM

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While we are stones in God's temple, all the fullness of the Godhead does not dwell in us bodily.

According to scripture, it does...

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

As Stephen was a temple of God so was Jesus...both were full of the Holy Ghost. It's the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, be it in Stephen or Jesus, which makes us a temple.

1Co 3:16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

I'm not sure what you're trying to suggest with your view that "Christ is not indwelt by the Spirit in the same sense we are". There may be a different working of that indwelling Spirit, but we are indwelt with the Holy Ghost just as Jesus was. Jesus contrasted that with those who did not have the Holy Ghost dwelling in them....

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.