Do you have to support Israel no matter what?

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Luke

If the United states is going to give financial aid to any country on earth it should be to the nation of Israel as they are God's chosen people and God gave the promise that He would bless those that blessed them. As to them taking that land it is already thier land given to them by God. So yes i support them.

This line of thinking is whats wrong with the whole situation.

[n david]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

This line of thinking is whats wrong with the whole situation.

Do you believe God gave Israel certain land?

[houston]

Originally Posted by n david

Do you believe God gave Israel certain land?

you also need to read Galatians

[n david]

Originally Posted by houston

you also need to read Galatians

I'm assuming you mean Galatians 4, though I don't see what relevance it has to whether we should support the nation or not.

IMO, Romans 11 is more relevant:

"For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery, lest you be wise in your own estimation, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and thus all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,“The Deliverer will come from Zion. He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.” 27 “And this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.” 28 From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable,"

All Israel will one day be saved. In order for that to happen, Israel must survive, and we should stand by or support them.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by houston

you also need to read Galatians

Do you and Odooley6985 hold to replacement theology?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Luke

Do you and Odooley6985 hold to replacement theology?

never heard of it

[Luke]

Originally Posted by houston

never heard of it

A very brief nut shell cliff notes version of replacement theology is to simply point out that those who hold to this believe that the church has replaced Israel as God chosen people because Israel rejected Jesus as their Messiah. They would also believe that there is no separate eschatological plan for Israel and the church. (this separate plan has nothing to do with salvation in the sense of a separate means of being saved bit rather that all of the old testament promises made to Israel as a nation will one day be fulfilled.)

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by Luke

A very brief nut shell cliff notes version of replacement theology is to simply point out that those who hold to this believe that the church has replaced Israel as God chosen people because Israel rejected Jesus as their Messiah. They would also believe that there is no separate eschatological plan for Israel and the church. (this separate plan has nothing to do with salvation in the sense of a separate means of being saved bit rather that all of the old testament promises made to Israel as a nation will one day be fulfilled.)

Yep. It bleeds into a lot fo NT theology too. Most who believe in replacement theology also believe that every promise made to Israel in the OT transfers over to us now completely. I think that is why so many do all their preaching out of the OT to some degree.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Luke

If the United states is going to give financial aid to any country on earth it should be to the nation of Israel as they are God's chosen people and God gave the promise that He would bless those that blessed them. As to them taking that land it is already thier land given to them by God. So yes i support them.

Originally Posted by odooley6985

This line of thinking is whats wrong with the whole situation.

They didn't actually just "take land that God gave them"...Land was set aside FOR them and then the Arabs attacked. They captured land that was in Arab hands as a part of that war