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Old 10-11-2013, 07:04 AM
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You aren't going to address the fact that the same Holy Ghost which indwelled Jesus also indwells us.

You simply aren't going to identify what was in Jesus that's not in you....or me.

Why do you repeatedly create straw men to argue with?

According to Col. 2:9, Jesus was the embodiment of that Spirit. You and I are not.

Nor are we the head of all principality and power

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Old 10-11-2013, 09:09 AM
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Why do you repeatedly create straw men to argue with?

According to Col. 2:9, Jesus was the embodiment of that Spirit. You and I are not.

Nor are we the head of all principality and power
The Holy Ghost dwelt within Jesus as in Stephen and you and me....

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

According to scripture, Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost.

Now, I ask you once again, identify that which dwelt in Jesus which does not dwell within us. Did the same Holy Ghost which dwelt in Jesus dwell in us? If so, what dwelt in Jesus other than the Holy Ghost?
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:39 AM
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The Holy Ghost dwelt within Jesus as in Stephen and you and me....

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

According to scripture, Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost.

Now, I ask you once again, identify that which dwelt in Jesus which does not dwell within us. Did the same Holy Ghost which dwelt in Jesus dwell in us? If so, what dwelt in Jesus other than the Holy Ghost?

He lives in us. He took on flesh and tabernacled among us in Christ.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:44 AM
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He lives in us. He took on flesh and tabernacled among us in Christ.
But the Holy Ghost dwelled in Him as the Holy Ghost dwells in us. I gave scripture supporting that. We're filled with the Holy Ghost as He was filled with the Holy Ghost.

I understand you're not going to identify that which dwelt in Jesus which does not dwell in us.
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:37 PM
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But the Holy Ghost dwelled in Him as the Holy Ghost dwells in us. I gave scripture supporting that. We're filled with the Holy Ghost as He was filled with the Holy Ghost.

I understand you're not going to identify that which dwelt in Jesus which does not dwell in us.

Our infilling is for regeneration. Jesus does not need such being sinless.

As a man he was filled with a Messianic anointing of the Spirit. This was prior to his glorification when he was walking in limitations as a man. Same Spirit, different roles.

But this does not change the fact that he was indeed the embodiment of the said Spirit.

Atthis point, it was at least be polite to acknowledge that I have answered your question. It's OK to disagree with the answer. But there is no need to be insulting by pretending like you have not been answered.

Now i expect you to be as kind and answer my question...

Does all the Col. 2:9 apply to us?

"For in Seekerman dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily".

For in Seekerman there is all of God in a human body

For In Seekerman dwells all the fulness of Deity in bodily form?

You see no exclusivity to Christ in Col 2:9?
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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Our infilling is for regeneration. Jesus does not need such being sinless.
I didn't ask what the indwelling of the Holy Ghost in Jesus was for. I asked what indwelled Jesus which doesn't indwell us. You haven't answered.

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Atthis point, it was at least be polite to acknowledge that I have answered your question.
Of course you haven't given an answer to what indwelled Jesus which doesn't indwell us. We both have the fullness of the Holy Ghost indwelling us. Now what else, other than the Holy Ghost, indwelled Jesus?
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All the fulness of deity in bodily form col 2:9
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