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10-11-2013, 09:52 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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Frauds like you do not want answers. You live in a dream world where you can pretend you have not been answered when in fact you have.
I ask you again, does all the fullness of Deity dwell bodily in you? Are you the head of all principality and power? Is anyone "complete in you"? Why not? Don't you and Jesus have the same Holy Ghost living in you?  |
You won't identify that which indwelled Jesus, other than the Holy Ghost. That's your choice.
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10-11-2013, 10:50 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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You won't identify that which indwelled Jesus, other than the Holy Ghost. That's your choice.
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What scripture refers to something "indwelling Jesus"?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-11-2013, 10:57 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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What scripture refers to something "indwelling Jesus"?
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It says both Jesus and Stephen were full of the Holy Ghost....
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God
For them to be full of the Holy Ghost, they had to be filled at some point in time.
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10-12-2013, 12:23 AM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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It says both Jesus and Stephen were full of the Holy Ghost....
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God
For them to be full of the Holy Ghost, they had to be filled at some point in time. |
Yeah...don't see the word "indwelling" there.
Also Jesus wasn't just full of the Spirit
Col 2:9 For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form,
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-12-2013, 06:20 AM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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Yeah...don't see the word "indwelling" there.
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Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God
How could Jesus and Stephen be full of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost not indwell them?
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Also Jesus wasn't just full of the Spirit
Col 2:9 For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form,
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Yep. But the Holy Ghost alone isn't the fullness of deity?
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10-12-2013, 08:15 AM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God
How could Jesus and Stephen be full of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost not indwell them?
Yep. But the Holy Ghost alone isn't the fullness of deity?
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So you do not see the statement of Col. 2:9 as being exclusive to Christ ? Just asking for a clarification of your position?
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10-12-2013, 09:34 AM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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So you do not see the statement of Col. 2:9 as being exclusive to Christ ? Just asking for a clarification of your position? |
No doubt Col 2:9 is speaking exclusively of Christ, but you cannot have verse 9 without verse 10....
Col 2:9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;
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10-12-2013, 01:52 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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Originally Posted by seekerman
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Act 7:55 But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God
How could Jesus and Stephen be full of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost not indwell them?
Yep. But the Holy Ghost alone isn't the fullness of deity?
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What does "indwell" mean? If I fill a glass with Pepsi does the Pepsi indwell the glass?
"Fulness of Deity" refers to the attributes not an ethereal substance that get's poured into a container
Also it says "in bodily form", which is not the same as "in a body"
And lastly it says "Fullness of" which is not the same as being full of Something
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-12-2013, 02:33 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
What does "indwell" mean? If I fill a glass with Pepsi does the Pepsi indwell the glass?
"Fulness of Deity" refers to the attributes not an ethereal substance that get's poured into a container
Also it says "in bodily form", which is not the same as "in a body"
And lastly it says "Fullness of" which is not the same as being full of Something
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Does the Holy Ghost indwell you? Did the Holy Ghost indwell Stephen? Did the Holy Ghost indwell Jesus? Did the Holy Ghost indwell those on the day of Pentecost?
I don't expect a direct answer from you, just more of your typical word games.
Last edited by seekerman; 10-12-2013 at 02:40 PM.
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