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Old 10-12-2013, 02:33 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?

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What does "indwell" mean? If I fill a glass with Pepsi does the Pepsi indwell the glass?

"Fulness of Deity" refers to the attributes not an ethereal substance that get's poured into a container

Also it says "in bodily form", which is not the same as "in a body"

And lastly it says "Fullness of" which is not the same as being full of Something
Does the Holy Ghost indwell you? Did the Holy Ghost indwell Stephen? Did the Holy Ghost indwell Jesus? Did the Holy Ghost indwell those on the day of Pentecost?

I don't expect a direct answer from you, just more of your typical word games.

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Old 10-12-2013, 03:47 PM
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Does the Holy Ghost indwell you?
the Holy Spirit is in me. The Fulness of Deity does not dwell in me in bodily form

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Did the Holy Ghost indwell Stephen?
What does "indwell" mean?
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Did the Holy Ghost indwell Jesus?
What does "indwell" mean?

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Did the Holy Ghost indwell those on the day of Pentecost?
What does "indwell" mean? Why do you use "indwell" instead of saying "full of" or "filled with"?

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I don't expect a direct answer from you, just more of your typical word games.
They why do you even bother? You have such a belligerent tone that makes dialog nearly impossible.

You asked me a question, actually a couple and I answered directly.

But then you ask me a question using a term you use, that I do not and I am not sure what it is you believe it means. I tried to point this out already and rather than try to just dialog with me you become combative
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?

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What does "indwell" mean?

What does "indwell" mean?


What does "indwell" mean?
LOL. And the discussion is over. You're into your typical full evasion mode.
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Old 10-12-2013, 03:54 PM
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LOL. And the discussion is over. You're into your typical full evasion mode.
I'll answer once I know what you mean by "indwell". See what I mean folks? Im trying to dialog with him and his response is to be belligerent.

This is how conversations with Seekerman usually go
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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I'll answer once I know what you mean by "indwell". See what I mean folks? Im trying to dialog with him and his response is to be belligerent.

This is how conversations with Seekerman usually go
You're not, nor will anyone else it seems, going to reveal that which indwelled Jesus which doesn't indwell us, or Stephen or the folks on the day of Pentecost. I know you're not, you know you're not. So now you revert to Clintonesque behavior in order to take the focus from your inability and/or unwillingness to simply answer the question.

This is typical you, prax, my brother.
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?

Here's a scripture which may help a few folks here. Notice the words "in" and "dwell".

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
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You're not, nor will anyone else it seems, going to reveal that which indwelled Jesus which doesn't indwell us, or Stephen or the folks on the day of Pentecost. I know you're not, you know you're not. So now you revert to Clintonesque behavior in order to take the focus from your inability and/or unwillingness to simply answer the question.

This is typical you, prax, my brother.
I never said something "indwelled Jesus that doesn't "indwell us".

I DID however point out that ALL the FULNESS of Deity is at home in Christ in bodily form and that is never said of the rest of us

I did already concede we are full of the Spirit and that Christ is said to be full of the same Spirit.

As I said though you keep changing the issue to some theological jargon "indwell" that only you seem to know the meaning of because rather than explain what you mean you persist in being enigmatic about it all so you can go on your usual tantrums over people not answering you.
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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I never said something "indwelled Jesus that doesn't "indwell us".

I DID however point out that ALL the FULNESS of Deity is at home in Christ in bodily form and that is never said of the rest of us

I did already concede we are full of the Spirit and that Christ is said to be full of the same Spirit.

As I said though you keep changing the issue to some theological jargon "indwell" that only you seem to know the meaning of because rather than explain what you mean you persist in being enigmatic about it all so you can go on your usual tantrums over people not answering you.
LOL@'tantrums'.
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