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10-12-2013, 06:35 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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No, it hasn't been answered. You responded with your usual 'who' instead of identifying that which made the fullness of the Godhead complete by adding something to the Holy Ghost which indwelt Jesus. In other words, the Holy Ghost isn't the fullness of the Godhead in your view. There's something else that's needed.
I've been at this quite a while now and realized many posts ago that you weren't going to answer.
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It is not a question of there being something in Christ other than or different than the Holy Spirit. Rather, it's a question of what the Spirit did to Christ at his exaltation, something Unitarians don't get.
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10-12-2013, 06:43 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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It is not a question of there being something in Christ other than or different than the Holy Spirit. Rather, it's a question of what the Spirit did to Christ at his exaltation, something Unitarians don't get.
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No, it's the question of what indwelled Jesus which resulted in the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Him. You won't identify that which indwelled Jesus that made up the fullness of the Godhead. We both agree that the Holy Ghost indwelled both Jesus and Stephen but you won't identify that which indwelled Jesus which resulted in the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Him.
The Holy Ghost indwelled Jesus.... plus what...that resulted in the fullness of the Godhead to indwell Him.
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10-12-2013, 06:53 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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No, it's the question of what indwelled Jesus which resulted in the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Him. You won't identify that which indwelled Jesus that made up the fullness of the Godhead. We both agree that the Holy Ghost indwelled both Jesus and Stephen but you won't identify that which indwelled Jesus which resulted in the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Him.
The Holy Ghost indwelled Jesus.... plus what...that resulted in the fullness of the Godhead to indwell Him.
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No. It is a question of what the Spirit that dwelt in Christ did to him at his glorification that he has not done in us even though he also lives in us,
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10-12-2013, 06:55 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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No. It is a question of what the Spirit that dwelt in Christ did to him at his glorification that he has not done in us even though he also lives in us,
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No it's not.....
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Now, again, what dwelled in Him other than the Holy Ghost which made up the fullness of the Godhead. The Holy Ghost plus what dwelled in Him?
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10-12-2013, 07:11 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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No it's not.....
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Now, again, what dwelled in Him other than the Holy Ghost which made up the fullness of the Godhead. The Holy Ghost plus what dwelled in Him?
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I explained to you from Acts 2:33, John 7 and 15 and Revelation chapter 5 that , at his glorification, all the fulness of the Godhead began to operate within him, and not when he received his messianic anointing at John's baptism. Again, it is a question of what the Spirit that dwelt in Christ did to him at his glorification that he has not done in us, even though he also lives in us.
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10-12-2013, 07:31 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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I explained to you from Acts 2:33, John 7 and 15 and Revelation chapter 5 that , at his glorification, all the fulness of the Godhead began to operate within him, and not when he received his messianic anointing at John's baptism. Again, it is a question of what the Spirit that dwelt in Christ did to him at his glorification that he has not done in us, even though he also lives in us.
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No, it's not......
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
In Him [Jesus] dwelt the fullness of the Godhead. Something indwelled Him. We've agreed that the Holy Ghost indwelled Him but you're not identifying that, other than the Holy Ghost, which made a complete fullness indwelling. Your view is that the Holy Ghost indwelling isn't the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Jesus. I ask if the Holy Ghost isn't the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Jesus, what else indwells Him to result in the indwelling fullness?
Something identified as 'the fullness of the Godhead' dwelt in Jesus. What dwelled in Him other than the Holy Ghost?
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10-12-2013, 07:37 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?
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No, it's not......
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
In Him [Jesus] dwelt the fullness of the Godhead. Something indwelled Him. We've agreed that the Holy Ghost indwelled Him but you're not identifying that, other than the Holy Ghost, which made a complete fullness indwelling. Your view is that the Holy Ghost indwelling isn't the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Jesus. I ask if the Holy Ghost isn't the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Jesus, what else indwells Him to result in the indwelling fullness?
Something identified as 'the fullness of the Godhead' dwelt in Jesus. What dwelled in Him other than the Holy Ghost?
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Even you admitted the Spirit anoints different people in different ways. Nothing indwelt Christ other than the Spirit. But at his glorification, the Spirit did something in him that he has done in nobody else.
To put it another way, Col. 2:9 is a direct reference to the glorification of Christ, or what he was endowed with by God at his glorification.
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