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Old 10-12-2013, 08:45 PM
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Re: Who Is The Holy Spirit?

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So your comment that "there is nothing other than the Spirit needed for this to be the case" isn't suggesting that the Holy Ghost alone is what indwelled Jesus as the fullness of the Godhead? What else could it mean?

I guess we're right back to the original question, what, other than the Holy Ghost was indwelling Jesus so that the fullness of the Godhead dwelled in Him?
Apparently "there is nothing other than the Spirit needed for this to be the case" isn't what you meant to say.
My comment was in reference to your insistence that something other than the Spirit had to be indwelling Christ, something that nobody here ever claimed. But you are the master at straw man arguments. When are you going to comment on Acts 2:33.
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Old 10-12-2013, 08:58 PM
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My comment was in reference to your insistence that something other than the Spirit had to be indwelling Christ, something that nobody here ever claimed. But you are the master at straw man arguments. When are you going to comment on Acts 2:33.
So, we agree that there was nothing other than the Holy Ghost indwelling Jesus which was the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Him? Isn't this comment of yours indicating that....."here is nothing other than the Spirit needed for this to be the case."

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Yes, Jesus received the promise of His God and Father and it was present at the beginning of His ministry...

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

You haven't commented on the passage so I'm not quite sure what your point is concerning Acts 2:33.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:05 PM
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So, we agree that there was nothing other than the Holy Ghost indwelling Jesus which was the fullness of the Godhead indwelling Him? Isn't this comment of yours indicating that....."here is nothing other than the Spirit needed for this to be the case."

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Yes, Jesus received the promise of His God and Father and it was present at the beginning of His ministry...

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

You haven't commented on the passage so I'm not quite sure what your point is concerning Acts 2:33.
What Peter mentions in Acts 2;33 is a completely separate event from what occurred in Luke 4;1. It is obvious that what Peter is describing in Acts 2:33 occurred at the ascension as a result if his glorification.
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What Peter mentions in Acts 2;33 is a completely separate event from what occurred in Luke 4;1. It is obvious that what Peter is describing in Acts 2:33 occurred at the ascension as a result if his glorification.
It's obvious that Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost immediately after His baptism.

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
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It's obvious that Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost immediately after His baptism.

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
That doesn't say he was only full since being baptized..

BTW what do you believe "being full of the Spirit" means?
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That doesn't say he was only full since being baptized..
Ok. And?

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BTW what do you believe "being full of the Spirit" means?
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

It means that Jesus had the Holy Ghost indwelling Him.
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Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

It means that Jesus had the Holy Ghost indwelling Him.
Which means what? He's a flesh suit and the Spirit is like water filling a bottle?
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