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Too bad most GOP'ers will never "forgive" Christie for helping President Obama win re-election.
I've long said Christie would have my support and he would-- but now I add, "as long as he's not paired with an idiot."
The "average American" is politically moderate.
A "Christie-Perry" ticket wouldn't make sense.
A "Christie-Rand Paul" ticket MIGHT be appealing.
A "Christie-West" ticket would be even more appealing, but wouldn't energize enough of "idiotic" GOP'ers, so they would lose.
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Christie-Perry: Out of your three suggestions, this is the closest possibility.
Christie-Paul: Laughable. They really don't like each other and are diametrically opposed to each other.
Christie-West: Are you talking about Allen West? He's almost as nutty as Bachmann.
BTW, every time the GOP candidate is a moderate, they lose. McCain and Romney were GOP moderates....they lost. Reagan and Bush campaigned on conservative values. They were not moderates in the GOP party...oh, and they won.
A moderate GOP'er like Christie will do what the last two moderate GOP'ers did: he will lose.
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Please provide proof of:
1) union manipulation-- of who or what;
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I don't believe there was "manipulation" so to speak, but unions
did spend a ton of money to make sure their guy was elected.
- $536,549 Service Employees International Union
$390,106 United Steelworkers of America
$343,530 American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
$250,000 Firefighters – International Assn
$250,000 Laborers’ International Union of North America
$200,000 United Food & Commercial Workers
$150,000 Communication Workers of America
$125,000 American Federation of Teachers
$100,000 National Education Assn
$50,000 United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry
$50,000 United Steelworkers of America Dist 8
$25,000 Machinists Non-Partisan Political League
$25,000 Office and Professional Employees International Union Voice of Electorate PAC
$20,000 Intl Brotherhood of Teamsters
$20,000 Va AFL-CIO
$15,000 International Brotherhood of Boilermakers
$10,000 Intl Union of Bricklayers & Allied Craftsmen
$10,000 Service Employees International Union – Local 32BJ
$5,173 Va Education Assn
$5,000 American Fed State County Mun Employees – Maryland Council 2
$5,000 Firefighters – Local 2068
$5,000 Intl Longshoremen’s Assn
$5,000 National Rural Letter Carriers Assn
$5,000 United Mineworkers of America (UMW)
$5,000 Va Governmental Employees Assn
$4,298 AFL-CIO
$3,000 Brotherhood of Railroad Signalmen
And that doesn't include the close to a million dollars or more in tv and print ads. The NEA alone paid $519K on just ads.
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3) and a phony Libertarian-- especially in light that the GOP would NEVER put up phony candidates or purposely gerrymander their state districts to ensure political domination.
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I haven't heard of the GOP running a phony candidate -- post your source on this, please. Also, BOTH parties realign state districts to achieve the maximum votes for their party. Stop whining about the GOP doing this, as though they're the only ones who do it. You have a habit of
only highlighting the GOP on stuff like this, while you blatantly ignore the Dem's who do the same thing.
A top bundler for obama was the biggest contributor to this "Libertarian." The Libertarian raised $229K...$150K was from obama's bundler.
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So the GOP takes a loss for Governor-ship, but still wants to spin it as a win for them!
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It was a win. Had the "Libertarian" candidate not been in the race, the GOP would likely have won. Here's why it was a win: McAuliffe was up by 12 points before bummercare started completely imploding and people started seeing that obama lied about being able to keep insurance. He ended up winning by less than 2%...and only because obama's bundler helped get a candidate in the race who siphoned 6.5% of the votes -- most of which would arguably have gone to the GOP.
obama, and the West Wing better hope something happens to take voters minds off bummercare, because if not, the 2014 midterms will not be good to the Democrats.
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