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Old 01-03-2014, 12:48 PM
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if you have seen chemtrails in your area, and have fluoridated water, this will be pertinent
http://www.actionpa.org/fluoride/aluminum.html
but it's a toxic world; this is no secret. a week or two of cleanse once or twice a year is just good sense.
a 4 stage cleanse in the right order will, well, blow your mind, especially if you follow it up with a good powdered whole food vitamin.
and if you are eating out of a grocery store, CAFO protein, etc. now, i salute you for even being able to function.
Yes, we all have to put up with chemtrails. One winter, I went out one morning and there was a sticky pinkish-orange substance on the snow. I wished I knew someone that could have checked to see what it was.

I have a well, but live near big farm fields, so I filter my water with a "Big Berky" I eat very little prepared foods. and I should be cleaned out pretty good. I've had a diarrhea for about a month, that I am sure that the medicine that I take for 'restless leg syndrome' is causing. I went to the Dr. Tuesday to get him to change my medicine. He wouldn't. And later called my son and told him to take me to the emergency room. My white blood count was 68000. It has been running 55000 with the Leukemia, and I understand that isn't too bad.

I knew there was no reason to lay on a hospital bed for 2 r 3 hrs, have them give me an antibiotic and send me home. So I had my son go get the antibiotic.
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Sorry you are going through this, Renee. *hugs*
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Me too. My personal belief is that it is the prescriptions and antibiotics that are the problem. You can google 'pink snow,' (or anything, now : ) looks like prolly algae. Google 'Leukemia natural cures' and run from those allopaths, imo.
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For what it's worth
http://search.freefind.com/find.html...ery=paul+thorn

in ref #1, about 70% down the page, subtitle 'Paul's Thorn,' might be of some help, if you can overcome the differences in your models. I don't agree with everything this guy says, he has blind spots, too, so caveat emptor. See that your doctrinal diffs don't matter, if he has Truth that works for you. I've included the whole search for 'Paul thorn' for further reference, bc in there somewhere is a great synopsis of Paul having finally reached Spiritual Rapport and overcome the thorn, with Scriptural quotes--but I'm not sure if that is in the first ref.

shapeez, That guy is into astrology, looks like maybe Palmistry, sorry but I don't think he knows what he is talking about.
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Sorry you are going through this, Renee. *hugs*

thank you Timmy, You are sweet----sometimes.
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thank you Timmy, You are sweet----sometimes.
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I'll be praying for you Sis. Renee, I can only imagine how much of a struggle it is to live with a chronic illness. It sounds to me that you are doing all in your power as much as within you to live as healthy and close to the land as possible, which is wonderful.

Have you ever read Catherine Marshall's books? She has a lot of insight into this kind of thing, being that she suffered from chronic illness herself.
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shapeez, That guy is into astrology, looks like maybe Palmistry, sorry but I don't think he knows what he is talking about.
well, i don't read that stuff; i think he is recalling the actual Biblical astrology of the heavens. As for the hand stuff, dunno, don't really read that either, but he makes a pretty good argument, with Scriptures, that actually seems pretty intuitive, being it's your hand maybe. i dunno. i seek for where i agree, and his revelation of a Christian's advance to Spiritual Rapport is prolly his best stuff. Paul's thorn was like a final test?

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Renee819 ... I don't believe that God healed Paul.
Of course the “Positive Confessors” will deny that Paul had an illness
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Where is it written that Paul was ”afflicted,” or that he had an illness? Certainly NOT in this passage -

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”And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me” (II Corinthians 12:9, KJV).
Lafon, how much plainer can it be? The weakness was not in his mind, nor his spirit, it was in his FLESH. Now look at the word weakness.

Vine's Words: Disease, Diseased, Infirmity, Sick, Sickly, Sickness, Weak, Weakened, Weaker, Weakness
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Usage Notes:
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English Words used in KJV:
infirmity 17
weakness 5
disease 1
sickness 1
[Total Count: 24]
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from <G772> (asthenes); feebleness (of body or mind); by implication malady; moral frailty :- disease, infirmity, sickness, weakness.

The word “infirmities” is the same word----”as-then'-i-ah”

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Neither did James use the word ”affliction,” rather it is ”afflicted,” a word whose synonym is ”chasten” (Webster’s New International Dictionary Unabridged, 2nd Edition, 1914
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and neither am I using the word '”affliction” in Paul's case. I'm using what the Bible uses---”asthenia” which is --- “Disease, Diseased, Infirmity, Sick, Sickly, Sickness, Weak, Weakened, Weaker, Weakness

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For one to be ”afflicted” implies that they have been ”inflicted” with continual or chronic physical pain, disease, or suffering that has been administered for the purpose of correction (which, BTW, also represents an accurate description of ”chasten”).

Most assuredly God does not desire that any except the one whom He has ”chastened” to pray for their own healing. This is why John was inspired to write that ”if any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it” (see I John 5:14, KJV).

Many have held that the ”sin unto death” mentioned by John refers to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, but such is a misrepresentation or misinterpretation, for that is a sin which results in immediate death to the offender (see Acts 5:1-10, KJV). Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is a sin that is committed by the “fruits” of one’s lips, and seeing that there is no forgiveness for such a sin, then there remains no reason for God to allow the offender to remain alive, therefore death immediately follows its commission.

Seeing that one does not pray for the dead sinner then John could not have been referring to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, rather he was referencing the very same thing which James wrote about, that is, an ”infliction” (”chastisement” if you will), which God has imposed upon a righteous individual for a sin (s) they have committed, and this because they have failed or neglected to repent of it (God knoweth what that sin might be).
So you believe that if a person that is chronically ill and doesn't get healed that they are sinning and God is chastising them?
First if they are sinning, and they don't know that they are sinning, don't you think God would show them where they are sinning?
If God is chastising them, and they don't know what they are being chastised for, what good would it do?

Or are you talking about a hypocrite? One that knows that they are sinning and yet claims to be a Christian. Or one hiding their sins.
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I'll be praying for you Sis. Renee, I can only imagine how much of a struggle it is to live with a chronic illness. It sounds to me that you are doing all in your power as much as within you to live as healthy and close to the land as possible, which is wonderful.

Have you ever read Catherine Marshall's books? She has a lot of insight into this kind of thing, being that she suffered from chronic illness herself.
Thank you, Kept!

I've read several of her books. I think the first, "A Man Called Peter." Is there a certain one that you have in mind?
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