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Originally Posted by votivesoul
So God exists separate from and above His own creation? He is involved, and even "in" the universe, but He also exists ontologically apart from the universe.
I wonder "where" that "place" is, that God exists apart from and above His creation, and if whether or not we should call it "heaven", an otherwise true reality only known and experienced through spectral manifestations and revelation given to us by God???
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Good question! I don't have the answer. Your question is the reason there are a million opinions about something we are not sure of. We speculate, presume, and even hope, but the fact remains, if you or I believe in a Creator, that Being is beyond anything we can imagine or believe!
G-d did give me a Family, so I try to conclude my ideals from that. The Family was before the Bible, Religion, Politics, and other distractions. In the rawest form, the Family is tied together with genetics, blood, and character. We can observe every facet of life through our Families; love, failure, discipline, success, maturity, these and more tie us directly to "REALITY" and to each other.
I call every Family, "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly". Just go to a Family Reunion like mine. We have prison bums, divorcees, thieves, business owners, Democrats, Republicans, Catholics, Pentecostals, alcoholics, women, children, and the list goes on. For the most part, we pretty much accept each other for who we are. We help each other, pray for each other, and we always try to call around to make sure everyone is doing "OK".
Eternity doesn't fit in this mix, at least the Christian Eternity I found in Religion. If I believe the Doctrine I was taught as a young convert, I'm the only one going to Heaven in my Family, because I am (was) the only 3 stepper.
This whole issue is not only confusing, but is a dark form isolating people with ideas that break the Family apart, while stepping on the weak with false judgment and condemnation that does not conform to Nature or attributes necessary to raise humans in World that isn't perfect.
And let me say this in conclusion; as a Father who loves my children unconditionally, I could NEVER cast my children or other Family members into a place like Hell, no matter how bad they failed or sinned. I know that people are pathetic, including me, and my Faith is resting upon the idea that I am a small part of a Great Creator who passed down very special genetics, and a heart that sees beyond the failure of Humans who just can't get it together.
No wonder no one goes to Hell at a Funeral. All of the Family is there!!!!
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