Truth and Deception

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by n david

Interesting how you ignore the part in bold, and try to change the meaning of the text because it says "gather out of his kingdom." It does not mean God allows wheat and tares together in one person. It most clearly says that the tares are the children of the wicked one and the good seed (wheat) are the children of God. Surely you're not suggesting that God is wicked? Because that's exactly what you'd have to believe if you say wheat and tares are together in the life of a believer.

Hi nDavid... I think you react to controversy like a magnet does to steel, lol. Hadn't seen you post here until things got heated up a bit, lol.

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe your heart and soul is completely void and free of all evil?

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Hi nDavid...

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe your heart and soul is completely void and free of all evil?

Forgive me if I missed your answer, but I don't think you directly answered this.

[n david]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Forgive me if I missed your answer, but I don't think you directly answered this.

I did answer it, but now see that it was personalized to me.

I believe the Bible, when it says the heart is desperately wicked, and who can know it but God. Is my heart and soul free of evil? I hope so. I definitely believe it's free of intentional evil. Certainly there are occassions when sin and temptation comes along and tries to enter. Could there be evil that I don't know of, possibly; which is why I pray every day that God search the hidden parts of me and cleanse me from all unrighteousness.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by n david

I did answer it, but now see that it was personalized to me.

I believe the Bible, when it says the heart is desperately wicked, and who can know it but God. Is my heart and soul free of evil? I hope so. I definitely believe it's free of intentional evil. Certainly there are occassions when sin and temptation comes along and tries to enter. Could there be evil that I don't know of, possibly; which is why I pray every day that God search the hidden parts of me and cleanse me from all unrighteousness.

Amen! I agree!

[shazeep]

i understood her (him?), but i see how easy it is to write one thing, and read another!

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe your heart and soul is completely void and free of all evil?

i have seen that there is a way that seems right to a man, which ends in death. I think i am in good shape, but i am really naked, blind, and whatever. This is all since getting 'saved,' which our model told me--and argued against--happened back when i got baptized; but i think they still apply to me, today. Now i think i have developed a more complete understanding of forgiveness, and i primarily strive to live a forgiven life--but this is still hard for me. My level of pride and propensity for getting down on myself over inconsequential (really) inadequacies--that many would laugh at calling actual 'sins'--tells me that i still need work in that area, and others. Of course i believe i am void of sin; because i am deceived; in ways that do not even occur to me, even yet. I don't obsess over it, but i do keep it in the back of my mind; which i think opens the door for the Holy Spirit to guide me. I have felt the Spirit depart--in retrospect--way before i committed any overt sin, due to pride, which is more subtle for me than the word would indicate.