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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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I've always understood it to be imagery and not actually wind (as of) or even the actual sound of wind. It is the same as Matthew 3:16 "...he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove...." It wasn't an actual dove (like a), but imagery of gentleness, the dove being the most gentle of birds. |
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled(the sound) all the house where they were sitting.
It was an actual sound, and it was heard by all....(like a loud windstorm without the physical effects of wind)
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled(the sound) all the house where they were sitting.
It was an actual sound, and it was heard by all....
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"as of"? Isn't that imagery?
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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"as of"? Isn't that imagery?
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Not at all, it was not Imagery. It does no way imply that they "imagined" a sound of a wind. It filled all the house! It was a literal miracle, and Jesus prophecied it would happen in John 3...It would confirm to them the start of the New Birth experience for the early Church.
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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Not at all, it was not Imagery. It does no way imply that they "imagined" a sound of a wind. It filled all the house! It was a literal miracle, and Jesus prophecied it would happen in John 3...It would confirm to them the start of the New Birth experience for the early Church.
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Imagery - the formation of mental images, figures, or likenesses of things.
When I have been in a service where the Holy Ghost sweeps over the place, it is the imagery of the sound of wind, but it is not wind at all. "As of" is imagery. lol
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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Imagery - the formation of mental images, figures, or likenesses of things.
When I have been in a service where the Holy Ghost sweeps over the place, it is the imagery of the sound of wind, but it is not wind at all. "As of" is imagery. lol
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Ok, I get what you are thinking....
It was a Literal, LOUD SOUND of a (rushing mighty wind)...like a hurricane, but with no physical effects(destroyed stuff)...It says it FILLED all the house that they were sitting in, (not a mental image in their heads)...
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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Ok, I get what you are thinking....
It was a Literal, LOUD SOUND of a (rushing mighty wind)...like a hurricane, but with no physical effects(destroyed stuff)...It says it FILLED all the house that they were sitting in, (not a mental image in their heads)...
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Right, a literal sound that they used imagery to describe - loud wind.
The Spirit that descended upon Jesus wasn't an actual dove, the imagery was gentleness, hence the imagery of a dove.
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Re: Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully
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Right, a literal sound that they used imagery to describe - loud wind.
The Spirit that descended upon Jesus wasn't an actual dove, the imagery was gentleness, hence the imagery of a dove.
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Thats fine, Are you saying though, that there was no actual sound from HEAVEN of a rushing mighty wind that FILLED the house???
Please tell me where you are going here....
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