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Originally Posted by Ferd
What I want to know is if anyone first dropped standards then decided the W/S doctrine was wrong.
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No the first time I heard someone explain
John 3:5 as not being about baptism it actually made sense to me. I feel like you have to bring a lot of baggage with you to get baptism out of that passage. So I kicked the W/S doctrine first.
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Then what does the water and Spirit you see in that text mean?
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When Jesus explains it he compares a natural birth to a spiritual birth...that which is born of the flesh is flesh that which is born of the spirit is spirit.
Water = natural birth
Spirit = spiritual birth
(but that's a separate thread)