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Old 07-23-2014, 11:56 AM
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Re: The Hobby Lobby Decision

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I don't have a lot of time, but generally people choose their employment/employer by the benefits offered.

In my area, people love Hobby Lobby, because they pay above minimum wage, and are closed on Sundays. They also like the nature of what the company is built upon - religious values.

If you don't like the healthcare benefits, find another place to seek employment. That's all there is to it, Ginsburg.

All of her other "scare tactics" are simply to keep pressure on religious freedom.
Here are some of my thoughts:

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"The exemption sought by Hobby Lobby and Conestoga would…deny legions of women who do not hold their employers' beliefs access to contraceptive coverage"
They may be being denied coverage, but they are not being denied contraception. Hobby Lobby is simply not being required to pay for it. (Which in my opinion, you get what you get when you sign up for a job. Take it or leave it.) In addition, Hobby Lobby is providing lots of contraceptive coverage, just not abortions and stuff that causes abortions in their opinion.

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"Religious organizations exist to foster the interests of persons subscribing to the same religious faith. Not so of for-profit corporations. Workers who sustain the operations of those corporations commonly are not drawn from one religious community."
So this means that business owners have no rights? I think not. As a business owner, I would not want someone forcing me to pay for an abortion.

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"Any decision to use contraceptives made by a woman covered under Hobby Lobby's or Conestoga's plan will not be propelled by the Government, it will be the woman's autonomous choice, informed by the physician she consults."
Although that is true, why should an employer be required to give someone any insurance coverage period?

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"It bears note in this regard that the cost of an IUD is nearly equivalent to a month's full-time pay for workers earning the minimum wage."
So what? Condoms are a lot cheaper. Teach abstinence or frugality. If you have sex 12 times a month, I just looked online and you can get a box of 12 at dollar general for $6.00. Problem solved and you get to be "safe" to boot!

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"Would the exemption…extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah's Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus); and vaccinations[?]…Not much help there for the lower courts bound by today's decision."
If they do, they should be upfront at hiring so people know. I don't see this as a "huge" issue.

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"Approving some religious claims while deeming others unworthy of accommodation could be 'perceived as favoring one religion over another,' the very 'risk the [Constitution's] Establishment Clause was designed to preclude."
"The court, I fear, has ventured into a minefield."
And so it could. But otherwise you are forcing business owners to pay for abortions or whatever. There are two sides to this story not one.
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