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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Azzan

First time in a long time where a thread has gone off course.

I should of said carbs that cause fat build up increases estrogen in males, also with women can cause hormonal imbalances. Fat to obesity is a big problem in the United States mainly caused by not how much we eat, but what we eat.

This thread went off course?

Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing?

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

It is like this I was a vegetarian, a vegan, and came to the place where I found out I was starving myself by eating like those ways. After extensive study I found out that animal protein was extremely necessary. Being around Pentecostals I while I found them to be meat eaters they consumed more carbs than they did meat making them fat and sick.

Not just Pentecostals, but people in general consume far more carbs than necessary, myself included. I have never been vegan/vegetatarian, but studies indeed have shown that it is not the healthiest lifestyle either.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Men need the animal protein because of hormonal balance of testosterone.
Carbs and fat build up in the body increases estrogen in males.

Hey?

What was this thread about???

Well... bacon does seem to end up being the focus of threads you are involved in, lol

But yes, I agree that animal protein and fat is necessary for our bodies. Yet, all things in moderation. Only eating animal protein/fat, with not enough carbs is not good either.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I should of said carbs that cause fat build up increases estrogen in males, also with women can cause hormonal imbalances. Fat to obesity is a big problem in the United States mainly caused by not how much we eat, but what we eat.

This thread went off course?

Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing?

I agree that carbs have mainly been the cause of much disease here in the US. It is very hard to make sure that there are less carbs on your plate than vegetables or protein, simply because they are cheaper to buy, fill you up quicker, and taste better overall.

Yes, this thread is off course... but just par for the course on AFF, lol!!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Not just Pentecostals, but people in general consume far more carbs than necessary, myself included. I have never been vegan/vegetatarian, but studies indeed have shown that it is not the healthiest lifestyle either.

Amen, because there are things we need in animal proteins which help our bodies remain in hormonal balance. While I will agree that in the plant world there are proteins, they are enhanced with a balance of animal proteins of meat, fish, poultry, and diary. Not just anything mind you, but the best high quality grass fed, free range, and as far as fish goes, you just need to shop wisely when it comes to fish, fresh caught would be preferred. Seeing that some scary stuff comes out of fish farming.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Well... bacon does seem to end up being the focus of threads you are involved in, lol

But yes, I agree that animal protein and fat is necessary for our bodies. Yet, all things in moderation. Only eating animal protein/fat, with not enough carbs is not good either.

I agree 100% and the facts are you can't get away from having carbs.
Meals should always include carbs, but they shouldn't be the lion share of your diet. Too much fat on the body causes way too many problems. If we look through history, fat wasn't the norm. Men worked hard, women worked harder, and exercise was also performed by those who understood its importance. When Paul says physical exercise profiteth little, he wasn't telling Timothy not to train, or exercise, but driving home the point that physical exercise wasn't of any eternal benefit. Too much inactivity ends up complicating matters as we get older When you were younger you could get away with more foolishness when it came to eating, and inactivity, but as the body grows older problems crop up from a life time of abuse.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I agree that carbs have mainly been the cause of much disease here in the US. It is very hard to make sure that there are less carbs on your plate than vegetables or protein, simply because they are cheaper to buy, fill you up quicker, and taste better overall.

Well, number one to get rid of is bread, wheat is not the emmer wheat of the time of Jesus. So smart carb choices like sweet potato and yams, instead of white potato. As far as price goes I look at it this way, not eating properly, and exercising regularly, will end up costing you ( and your family) in the long run. Also exercise isn't just cardio, but it has to be weight training whether that is achieved by training with weights, or by calisthenics you must put that into your routine.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Yes, this thread is off course... but just par for the course on AFF, lol!!!

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Amen, because there are things we need in animal proteins which help our bodies remain in hormonal balance. While I will agree that in the plant world there are proteins, they are enhanced with a balance of animal proteins of meat, fish, poultry, and diary. Not just anything mind you, but the best high quality grass fed, free range, and as far as fish goes, you just need to shop wisely when it comes to fish, fresh caught would be preferred. Seeing that some scary stuff comes out of fish farming.




I agree 100% and the facts are you can't get away from having carbs.
Meals should always include carbs, but they shouldn't be the lion share of your diet. Too much fat on the body causes way too many problems. If we look through history, fat wasn't the norm. Men worked hard, women worked harder, and exercise was also performed by those who understood its importance. When Paul says physical exercise profiteth little, he wasn't telling Timothy not to train, or exercise, but driving home the point that physical exercise wasn't of any eternal benefit. Too much inactivity ends up complicating matters as we get older When you were younger you could get away with more foolishness when it came to eating, and inactivity, but as the body grows older problems crop up from a life time of abuse.

Well, number one to get rid of is bread, wheat is not the emmer wheat of the time of Jesus. So smart carb choices like sweet potato and yams, instead of white potato. As far as price goes I look at it this way, not eating properly, and exercising regularly, will end up costing you ( and your family) in the long run. Also exercise isn't just cardio, but it has to be weight training whether that is achieved by training with weights, or by calisthenics you must put that into your routine.

Getting rid of wheat/bread products in your diet is soooo hard. I have been on the South Beach diet in the past, and the hardest part was when we had to be away from home. I was fine eating healthy at home, but going to fast food restaurants, other people's homes, or church functions where there is really no healthy alternative on the SB diet... now that was tough. I found on the SB diet, eating more protein and vegetables, with good carbs that I felt great. It is just hard, in this American carb-dense world we live in to be able to eat like that for the rest of your life. Then when you cave in, it seems like all the fat cells come out of hibernation, and invite all their friends to the party lol!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Getting rid of wheat/bread products in your diet is soooo hard. I have been on the South Beach diet in the past, and the hardest part was when we had to be away from home. I was fine eating healthy at home, but going to fast food restaurants, other people's homes, or church functions where there is really no healthy alternative on the SB diet... now that was tough. I found on the SB diet, eating more protein and vegetables, with good carbs that I felt great. It is just hard, in this American carb-dense world we live in to be able to eat like that for the rest of your life. Then when you cave in, it seems like all the fat cells come out of hibernation, and invite all their friends to the party lol!

You can continue eating your proteins with good carbs if you just keep an eye of your choices when you are out there. Even if it is fast food, discarding their poor excuse for bread "so bleached it glows" and just focus on all the good choices you have. Good fats is what burns fat, carbs doesn't bring anything out of hibernation it creates the fat cells, and the body is no longer burning them for fuel because you gave your body something easier to eat, and that is carbs. Remember America wasn't built on carbs it was built on diary, meat, fish, and poultry. Lard was used in cooking, beef tallow was used in cooking before deadly corn oils made it into our frying pans.

Please take the few minutes to listen to this...

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You can continue eating your proteins with good carbs if you just keep an eye of your choices when you are out there. Even if it is fast food, discarding their poor excuse for bread "so bleached it glows" and just focus on all the good choices you have. Good fats is what burns fat, carbs doesn't bring anything out of hibernation it creates the fat cells, and the body is no longer burning them for fuel because you gave your body something easier to eat, and that is carbs. Remember America wasn't built on carbs it was built on diary, meat, fish, and poultry. Lard was used in cooking, beef tallow was used in cooking before deadly corn oils made it into our frying pans.

Please take the few minutes to listen to this...

My internet is not so great, but I will try to listen to it in a bit.

I wish there was such a thing as a grocery store that you could buy things that were good for you, organic veggies, meats, dairy and fish, and not have to be tempted by all the carb-alicioius junk food stacked on nearly every shelf in most grocery stores. We don't have a Whole Foods around here, but I wonder if even they do such a thing?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

My internet is not so great, but I will try to listen to it in a bit.

I wish there was such a thing as a grocery store that you could buy things that were good for you, organic veggies, meats, dairy and fish, and not have to be tempted by all the carb-alicioius junk food stacked on nearly every shelf in most grocery stores. We don't have a Whole Foods around here, but I wonder if even they do such a thing?

All grocery stores have good things for you. You have to look around your area for co-ops, even little health food stores (but only draw back on that is that if the owner eats a certain way he or she may try to steer you in their direction) vegetarian diets (especially vegan) is OK if your a rabbit, but in my opinion not meant for humans. I tried both vegetarian and vegan and found for myself and my family those two lifestyles didn't work. If you have supermarkets, farm stands, butcher shops in your town, you will be able to find good food.