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Old 09-24-2014, 11:48 AM
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One more thing to consider as far as different groups of believers being saved. Jesus didn't tell the Pharisees, Sadducees, Ebionites or other Jewish sects they were heretical or non Jewish. He did line up with the Pharisees doctrinally more than the other groups but didn't condemn them.

Likewise when he told John not to forbid the nan casting out devils just because he wasn't part of their group. I think this indicates we are much more willing to divide and condemn others if the same faith to hell than God is.
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Re: Question For The Evangelical Type Apostolics

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One more thing to consider as far as different groups of believers being saved. Jesus didn't tell the Pharisees, Sadducees, Ebionites or other Jewish sects they were heretical or non Jewish. He did line up with the Pharisees doctrinally more than the other groups but didn't condemn them.

Likewise when he told John not to forbid the nan casting out devils just because he wasn't part of their group. I think this indicates we are much more willing to divide and condemn others if the same faith to hell than God is.
Jesus did say that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven. So... even with correct doctrine, as perhaps some of the Pharisees had, and even outward righteousness, without INWARD righteousness it will be impossible to enter the kingdom of heaven. Inward holiness was always the point Jesus was trying to teach to the Pharisees, who were stuck on the outward. Not much has changed today either.
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One more thing to consider as far as different groups of believers being saved. Jesus didn't tell the Pharisees, Sadducees, Ebionites or other Jewish sects they were heretical or non Jewish. He did line up with the Pharisees doctrinally more than the other groups but didn't condemn them.

Likewise when he told John not to forbid the nan casting out devils just because he wasn't part of their group. I think this indicates we are much more willing to divide and condemn others if the same faith to hell than God is.

While I am more likely to condemn a GROUP than I am people in the group nonetheless the true Church is not just an open society.

3Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 3

4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, Eph. 4:4-5

Now this one hits particularly hard!

10Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 1 Cor 1:10

It looks as if there is a TRUE CHURCH.

Im not saying that you can only be saved if you are in it (certainly hard to find these days) but it looks as if this itself was an important truth.

It would be THERE we would find and promote the truth in entirety.

14These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 15But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Tim 3:14-15
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