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Old 10-19-2014, 07:04 PM
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Re: Marry Gays Or Go To Jail

Because Caesar has rejected God's definition of Marriage, then it is time for the church to reject marriage by Caesar.

It is time to disavow marriage by the state.

If the church simply rejects to marry by the state and issue its own certificates of marrying, it would put Caesar out of the business of marriage.
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:06 AM
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Re: Marry Gays Or Go To Jail

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Because Caesar has rejected God's definition of Marriage, then it is time for the church to reject marriage by Caesar.

It is time to disavow marriage by the state.

If the church simply rejects to marry by the state and issue its own certificates of marrying, it would put Caesar out of the business of marriage.
Many Christians have already done so. Besides, "civil marriage" has become a shame. A high stakes gamble that even non-Christian couples are hesitant to take.
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:49 AM
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Re: Marry Gays Or Go To Jail

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Because Caesar has rejected God's definition of Marriage, then it is time for the church to reject marriage by Caesar.

It is time to disavow marriage by the state.

If the church simply rejects to marry by the state and issue its own certificates of marrying, it would put Caesar out of the business of marriage.
While you and I might disagree on the tithing issue, please let me say that I concur wholeheartedly with your comments here. Well said.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:30 PM
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Re: Marry Gays Or Go To Jail

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Because Caesar has rejected God's definition of Marriage, then it is time for the church to reject marriage by Caesar.

It is time to disavow marriage by the state.

If the church simply rejects to marry by the state and issue its own certificates of marrying, it would put Caesar out of the business of marriage.
So, apparently here in Colorado, common-law marriage is just as legally valid as "legal" marriage, and couples can even solemnize their own ceremony. There's even a sample affidavit that couples can fill out which serves as a marriage certificate of sorts:

STATE OF COLORADO
AFFIDAVIT OF COMMON LAW MARRIAGE

We, the undersigned, attest to the following facts:

1. We are at least 18 year of age. If between the ages of 16 and 18, we have obtained proper parental or guardian consent.

2. There is no legal impediment to our marriage, including, but not limited to, a prior marriage of either party that has not been legally terminated by death or divorce.

3. We are married to each other and understand that a common law marriage holds all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of a lawful marriage. We understand that only death or divorce may terminate this marriage.

Both parties sign and have it notarized and it's considered valid just the same as a marriage certificate, only the State is not a legal party to the union.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:39 PM
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BTW, for those in CO, the above sample affidavit was taken directly from the State Attorney General's website here:

http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.g...ons#common_law
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:24 PM
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So, apparently here in Colorado, common-law marriage is just as legally valid as "legal" marriage, and couples can even solemnize their own ceremony. There's even a sample affidavit that couples can fill out which serves as a marriage certificate of sorts:

STATE OF COLORADO
AFFIDAVIT OF COMMON LAW MARRIAGE

We, the undersigned, attest to the following facts:

1. We are at least 18 year of age. If between the ages of 16 and 18, we have obtained proper parental or guardian consent.

2. There is no legal impediment to our marriage, including, but not limited to, a prior marriage of either party that has not been legally terminated by death or divorce.

3. We are married to each other and understand that a common law marriage holds all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of a lawful marriage. We understand that only death or divorce may terminate this marriage.

Both parties sign and have it notarized and it's considered valid just the same as a marriage certificate, only the State is not a legal party to the union.
this is good.

Jesus said "what God has joined, let no man put aside"
marriage is something that God has joined, not Caesar.
This statement by Jesus makes marriage a prerogative of the church not of the state.

Caesar has no power to join anything, it can only recognize such union.
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