Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Father?

[Aquila]

If the Son is the Father, when praying to the Father, is He not praying to the Son, i.e. Himself? When speaking of the love between Father and Son, wouldn't be only a love of self? It all becomes a false representation, an necessary illusion, required by this bi-modal state of existance. The expanation would only serve to require the reader not to believe this interpersonal relationship is real. Why not accept that each mode has a distinct personhood?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If the Son is the Father, when praying to the Father, is He not praying to the Son, i.e. Himself? When speaking of the love between Father and Son, wouldn't be only a love of self? It all becomes a false representation, an necessary illusion, required by this bi-modal state of existance. The expanation would only serve to require the reader not to believe this interpersonal relationship is real. Why not accept that each mode has a distinct personhood?

I have accepted that. If God is a person, there is one God and one man. Its both Jesus.

For there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim. 2:5

I guess the "natures dont pray" thing seems to be a valid point.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have accepted that. If God is a person, there is one God and one man. Its both Jesus.

For there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim. 2:5

I guess the "natures dont pray" thing seems to be a valid point.

Amen, that which prays must have a distinct personhood of it's own (regardless of nature)... or what's the point?

I've realized that those who hold to Oneness Theology don't typically disagree with the concept of the man Jesus Christ having a distinct sense of "self"... but if you called this a "distinct personhood" or spoke of the man Jesus being a "human person", they freak out. They fear the word "person"... but not the concept it accurately describes. lol

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If the Son is the Father, when praying to the Father, is He not praying to the Son, i.e. Himself?

Once again, Father and Son are distinct. Are you paying attention to ANYTHING that has been said up until now?