born of water

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by obriencp

I agree 100% with the opening post.



It always bothers me when people bring up the Titus passage and relate it to water baptism. Water baptism is NOT associated with regeneration. So if you're to bring up the "washing" part of that sentence, you must also deal with the "regeneration" part of that sentence. Regeneration is a function of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3:5 is talking about how the Spirit regenerates and renews. Certainly you are not a baptismal regenerist are you?

Also, regarding the Ephesians passage, are you suggesting that water baptism sanctifies us?

Amen. The UPCI's official stance is that water baptism is not associated with regeneration.

[obriencp]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Amen. The UPCI's official stance is that water baptism is not associated with regeneration.

I'm by no means an expert, but certain faiths believe that the spirit comes automatically upon water baptism right? Would those be considered baptismal regenerationalists? ... would Catholics and Baptists believe in baptismal regeneration? I'm asking because I really don't know.