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Old 12-05-2014, 11:57 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

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Scripture does not say one divine essence. It does say this concerning the Messiah:
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace.
I affirm the Messiah (YESHUA) is the begotten son and the Eternal Father? Do you?
The distiction is that the son was born of a woman. Therefore a human being. The Father is the Mighty God of Heaven.
Yeshua is both simultaneously. He is God and man at the same time.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."

Hmm...I must be reading the wrong Bible. Mine reads that "...his NAME shall be called..."...
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Old 12-05-2014, 01:06 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

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"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."

Hmm...I must be reading the wrong Bible. Mine reads that "...his NAME shall be called..."...
So, it's the NAME that is called ____. Not the child himself. Just his name. His name is (I suppose) Jesus (at least in English). It's a word. A proper noun. And that proper noun has a name. Several, actually. The Prince of Peace, for example, is what the proper noun is called. Jesus isn't the Prince of Peace. A word is the Prince of Peace.

OK, got it.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

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"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."

Hmm...I must be reading the wrong Bible. Mine reads that "...his NAME shall be called..."...
Your point????
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Your point????
My point is that I'm not reading the wrong Bible, nor am I reading it wrong.
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My point is that I'm not reading the wrong Bible, nor am I reading it wrong.
That's it? Congratulations...
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