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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Scripture does not say one divine essence. It does say this concerning the Messiah: Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace.
I affirm the Messiah (YESHUA) is the begotten son and the Eternal Father? Do you?
The distiction is that the son was born of a woman. Therefore a human being. The Father is the Mighty God of Heaven.
Yeshua is both simultaneously. He is God and man at the same time.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."
Hmm...I must be reading the wrong Bible. Mine reads that "...his NAME shall be called..."...
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."
Hmm...I must be reading the wrong Bible. Mine reads that "...his NAME shall be called..."...
So, it's the NAME that is called ____. Not the child himself. Just his name. His name is (I suppose) Jesus (at least in English). It's a word. A proper noun. And that proper noun has a name. Several, actually. The Prince of Peace, for example, is what the proper noun is called. Jesus isn't the Prince of Peace. A word is the Prince of Peace.
OK, got it.
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Quote:
Originally Posted by thephnxman
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."
Hmm...I must be reading the wrong Bible. Mine reads that "...his NAME shall be called..."...
Your point????
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
David Bernard seems to say Jesus has A Divine Spirit and a high man spirit..this full quote is confusing
Jesus possessed all elements of authentic humanity as originally created by God, without sin. Thus we can speak of Jesus as human in body, soul, spirit, mind, and will. (See Matthew 26:38; Luke 2:40; 22:42; 23:46; Philippians 2:5.) According to the flesh, Jesus was the biological descendant of Adam and Eve, Abraham, David, and Mary. (See Genesis 3:15; Romans 1:3; Galatians 3:16; Hebrews 2:14-17; 5:7-8.) We should not speak of two spirits in Jesus, however, but of one Spirit in which deity and humanity are joined.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Matt 1:20-21
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