born of water

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

all well and good; if the Gospel is lived it is a powerful force. and would you want to be working next to a deathbed repentant?
there is no fooling God, and understand this; God is larger than your religion makes Him out to be

I have been alongside of more that one "deathbed" incident. I have witnessed what the Lord can do.
A man shot five times, in a coma for seven months; and the Lord raised him up (I only saw him in the coma
for the last month); a man with advanced multiple sclerosis, unable to see and barely hear: he is completely
whole; and more. A four-years old child in an automobile accident, bleeding from her nose and ears, and not
breathing: is now a 32-years-old woman working for the State of Arizona.

"...larger that your religion"? What religion do you think is that? I stated that I believe in a God that performs miracles: that He can save people from certain death so that they may attain life. What is wrong with a God like that...or a gospel like that?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

I have been alongside of more that one "deathbed" incident. I have witnessed what the Lord can do.
A man shot five times, in a coma for seven months; and the Lord raised him up (I only saw him in the coma
for the last month); a man with advanced multiple sclerosis, unable to see and barely hear: he is completely
whole; and more. A four-years old child in an automobile accident, bleeding from her nose and ears, and not
breathing: is now a 32-years-old woman working for the State of Arizona.

"...larger that your religion"? What religion do you think is that? I stated that I believe in a God that performs miracles: that He can save people from certain death so that they may attain life. What is wrong with a God like that...or a gospel like that?

those are all great! But i mean to say that God transcends religion, of which our notions of baptism are a part.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by shazeep

those are all great! But i mean to say that God transcends religion, of which our notions of baptism are a part.

Our notions about baptism??? Baptism isn't a notion we have, but it is commanded by Jesus and His apostles. If God has something unwritten that will otherwise determine people's salvation then He is God, but I doubt it.

De. 30:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not too hard for thee, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, and make us to hear it, that we may do it? 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, and make us to hear it, that we may do it? 14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

Paul again quotes from this in Romans 10. I don't think that God would put commandments in scripture and make them optional. God is very clear and we should obey. My Grandmother felt led to be re-baptized the night she first got the Holy Ghost. She didn't at that time understand Jesus name baptism, and had been baptized in the titles. She was led to be baptized in Jesus name and didn't even have the scriptural knowledge to validate it.