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View Poll Results: Would you be able to know?
Yes. I have that ability. 7 70.00%
No. I can't tell. 3 30.00%
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:55 PM
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Not from the piece of paper. And if the statement isn't egregiously in violation to Scripture, you'd not be able to tell by the statement itself. If it were from God, you'd feel a witness to it's truth in your spirit.
Ah. Now we're talking. You have the ability to feel a witness in your heart. Maybe my problem is I was never given this ability. Or maybe I was! My heart says No to certain things that your hears says Yes to. Who's right?

Well, duh. I am.
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Ah. Now we're talking. You have the ability to feel a witness in your heart. Maybe my problem is I was never given this ability. Or maybe I was! My heart says No to certain things that your hears says Yes to. Who's right?

Well, duh. I am.
Your heart can't be trusted.
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The question I posed on this thread does not do what you accuse me of doing. Well, unless someone reads it and it occurs to them that they can't possibly know whether any particular writing was God-inspired or not, and take the logical step that even the Bible would have the same problem -- that you cannot know that it itself is inspired by God, unless, say, you think you have the supernatural power to determine such things, and of course conclude "No" for some books (Quran, Book of Mormon, e.g.) and "Yes" for others (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, etc., e.g.). But then, don't blame me: such a person's faith wasn't very strong anyway. Pray for them. That will fix it.
What you said is not read into it, but rather precisely the reason you wrote what you did. To cast disbelief of the bible onto others.
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Not sure everyone understands the question. It's not "Can you rule it out if it disagrees with other books that you have previously accepted as divinely inspired?" Rather, it asks if you can tell whether or not that particular paper accurately records something God has actually spoken to someone, as it claims. Ruling it out, if it's false, is part of it, but if you can't rule it out, you have to keep going: did God say it?

Today is December 23.

Does that contradict the Bible? No. Did God tell me that it is December 23? You tell me.
well, a calendar could do that; can you give another example?
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Ah. Now we're talking. You have the ability to feel a witness in your heart. Maybe my problem is I was never given this ability. Or maybe I was! My heart says No to certain things that your hears says Yes to. Who's right?

Well, duh. I am.
there is no reason why you both might not be "right," from your respective povs.
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Ever seeking to prove the bible wrong and mythical, and never ceasing. What's your mission, T? You get on a Christian forum and do nothing but intend to shoot down faith in the God of the Bible. Why the vengeance?
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What you said is not read into it, but rather precisely the reason you wrote what you did. To cast disbelief of the bible onto others.
Sad.

I have to agree with you Bro. Blume.
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Sad.

I have to agree with you Bro. Blume.
Like J said, why would anyone waste their time to this extent?
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well, a calendar could do that; can you give another example?
OK. Here's an actual example, though it wasn't written on paper. A man told me that God told him my brother would be healed of cancer.

Did God say that to the man? Can you tell?

Mike, can you?
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there is no reason why you both might not be "right," from your respective povs.
There is a reason we can't both be right, no matter the povs. It's simple: God said something to the writer or He didn't. One of our hearts is right and one is wrong.

You're not even trying to make sense, are you?
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