Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[n david]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Discredited based on what? The early church fathers believed and taught this.

Not the Apostles of the New Testament. Joseph was not married before Mary. He did not have a family from before. The only claims are from a few texts in the Apocrypha, which are not part of the Holy Scripture. The ones who believe what you claim are the same who believe Jesus had a wife and children.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by n david

Not the Apostles of the New Testament. Joseph was not married before Mary. He did not have a family from before. The only claims are from a few texts in the Apocrypha, which are not part of the Holy Scripture. The ones who believe what you claim are the same who believe Jesus had a wife and children.

There are a few texts in the Apocrypha, and there are references to brothers (and sisters) in the gospels.

The early church fathers who taught this most certainly never taught that Jesus had a wife and children LOL

apocrypha: neuter plural of apocryphus secret, from Greek apokryphos obscure, from apokryptein to hide away, from apo- + kryptein to hide

Makes sense. Who practices a religion of lies then?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

There are a few texts in the Apocrypha, and there are references to brothers (and sisters) in the gospels.

The early church fathers who taught this most certainly never taught that Jesus had a wife and children LOL

apocrypha: neuter plural of apocryphus secret, from Greek apokryphos obscure, from apokryptein to hide away, from apo- + kryptein to hide

Makes sense. Who practices a religion of lies then?

Islamics.

True Christians reject the apocrypha.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Islamics.

True Christians reject the apocrypha.

I neither accepted nor rejected the apocrypha. See above. Post said early church fathers taught that Joseph was previously married and married Mary at age 12.

So did Jesus have brothers and sisters? Gospels mention them.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I neither accepted nor rejected the apocrypha. See above. Post said early church fathers taught that Joseph was previously married and married Mary at age 12.

So did Jesus have brothers and sisters? Gospels mention them.

Who cares what early church fathers said? The bible is self-contained. Mary had other children after Jesus, too.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Who cares what early church fathers said? The bible is self-contained. Mary had other children after Jesus, too.

Was that in the bible or did you randomly choose to believe which early church father taught that as opposed to the ones who picked a previous marriage to protect the perpetual virginity of Mary?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Islamics.

True Christians reject the apocrypha.

I see. Forgot to ask. So you declare the Council of Nicea true christians? You believe that possession of apocrypha warrants torture and a death sentence?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I see. Forgot to ask. So you declare the Council of Nicea true christians? You believe that possession of apocrypha warrants torture and a death sentence?

Wow, you assume all sorts of things, don't you?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Wow, you assume all sorts of things, don't you?

An assumption is normally not accompanied by a question mark.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

There are a few texts in the Apocrypha, and there are references to brothers (and sisters) in the gospels.

The early church fathers who taught this most certainly never taught that Jesus had a wife and children LOL

apocrypha: neuter plural of apocryphus secret, from Greek apokryphos obscure, from apokryptein to hide away, from apo- + kryptein to hide

Makes sense. Who practices a religion of lies then?

That would be islam.

One word: Taqiyya