Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[BrotherEastman]

WII What is your honest opinion about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=CY4gNBf2n3o

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

WII What is your honest opinion about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=CY4gNBf2n3o

My opinion is that this is criminal. There are numerous references in Islamic teaching that specifically state that you cannot force a marriage and prohibit forced marriages.

Narrated AbuHurayrah: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: An orphan virgin girl should be consulted about herself; if she says nothing that indicates her permission, but if she refuses, the authority of the guardian cannot be exercised against her will. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 11, Number 2088)"

"A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought." (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 008, Number 3303)"

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: "A virgin came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and mentioned that her father had married her against her will, so the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) allowed her to exercise her choice." (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 11, Number 2091)

Are those who did this thing following Islamic teaching or not?

There are more, I just grabbed a sample.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

My opinion is that this is criminal. There are numerous references in Islamic teaching that specifically state that you cannot force a marriage and prohibit forced marriages.

Narrated AbuHurayrah: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: An orphan virgin girl should be consulted about herself; if she says nothing that indicates her permission, but if she refuses, the authority of the guardian cannot be exercised against her will. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 11, Number 2088)"

"A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought." (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 008, Number 3303)"

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: "A virgin came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and mentioned that her father had married her against her will, so the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) allowed her to exercise her choice." (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 11, Number 2091)

Are those who did this thing following Islamic teaching or not?

There are more, I just grabbed a sample.

From what you posted I gather not. I would also like to point out that I think you are an exception and not the rule of Islam. You do not seem to be a radical, but you have to admit that fundamentalist Muslims give Islam a bad name. I say this with respect to you of course.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

From what you posted I gather not. I would also like to point out that I think you are an exception and not the rule of Islam. You do not seem to be a radical, but you have to admit that fundamentalist Muslims give Islam a bad name. I say this with respect to you of course.

All three sources state that it is not OK to force a virgin to marry if she expresses that she does not wish to.

You are right about the fundamentalist. It is difficult to determine how the law can be twisted and violated so badly and what the justification behind such a case (referring to the young lady in the video) can be.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

All three sources state that it is not OK to force a virgin to marry if she expresses that she does not wish to.

You are right about the fundamentalist. It is difficult to determine how the law can be twisted and violated so badly and what the justification behind such a case (referring to the young lady in the video) can be.

You have a misconception however about Muslim countries. I cannot say I know of anyone who has married a young girl or expouses violence or justifies violence in the name of Islam. I have lived overseas in Saudi 4 years now. My wife and her family are Indonesian and we spend quite a bit of time there. Most of my Muslim friends and colleagues are just like me.

Your christian peers here I believe, would agree.

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