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Old 01-10-2015, 11:28 PM
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Re: Obey them that have the rule over you

I believe that most who pastor a church or elders wichever you call it know that a title and a position doesn't get you very far with people. Trust is earned. When people learn to trust that you care for them and want only to help them in their relationship with God then they will decide the leaders they allow in their life. If you are serving God you will have Godly influence in your life(I call them pastors)!!!! When a person is hungry for God they look for any place they can possibly glean from.
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I believe that most who pastor a church or elders wichever you call it know that a title and a position doesn't get you very far with people. Trust is earned. When people learn to trust that you care for them and want only to help them in their relationship with God then they will decide the leaders they allow in their life. If you are serving God you will have Godly influence in your life(I call them pastors)!!!! When a person is hungry for God they look for any place they can possibly glean from.
Bro. GS - I appreciate the sweet spirit that you always share your thoughts with. Please understand that thread was not started with a "pastor bashing" discussion in mind.

I truly believe with all my heart, and perhaps more than ever before, in worthy servant-led leadership in the church. Sadly, there is so much leadership today by those who feel "called" to the ministry (or set in place by their fathers) who feel "called" to a position with perks and benefits, and want no part being the servant in ministry that Jesus spoke of.

I hope that more discussion on the subject will open the eyes of those who think a pastor or person in leadership can act as a dictator towards those who he is leading. We certainly don't see a dictatorship/pope type leadership example anywhere in the NT church. Instead we see Paul speaking of working with his own hands, traveling from church to church, experiencing persecution, and exhorting believers to follow his faith as a leader, setting up elders, deacons, and bishops in the churches to lead the church by example.

Bro. GS, from reading your posts, I sense your heartfelt desire to lead your church towards a more powerful relationship with the Lord, and believe that from what I have read of your posts, that your desire is to further the kingdom of God, and not rule as a dictator, setting up your own personal church kingdom. God Bless
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