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Old 01-13-2015, 08:42 PM
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My first Bible was a KJV: the Lord directed me to it from among 4-5 different versions. I also use a Strongs Concordance, but only as a guide. Fact is, I have two. One is from 1982, and a newer version. I feel the older one is a better version...and they ARE NOT the same. I'm still comparing them.
I have an original 1611 KJV, it is very hard to read.

If the KJV Only crowd really believed their theory, they would use an actual 1611 Bible, not the updated versions.

the fact that they do not read or use the original 1611 KJV version is proof that they themselves do not believe their own propaganda.

by the way the original 1611 KJV had the Apocrypha in it.
So the KJV Only crowd must accept the Apocrypha otherwise they show themselves to be hypocrites.
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I have an original 1611 KJV, it is very hard to read.

If the KJV Only crowd really believed their theory, they would use an actual 1611 Bible, not the updated versions.

the fact that they do not read or use the original 1611 KJV version is proof that they themselves do not believe their own propaganda.

by the way the original 1611 KJV had the Apocrypha in it.
So the KJV Only crowd must accept the Apocrypha otherwise they show themselves to be hypocrites.



The Apocrypha was ordered in 1611 to be part of the Bible for historical reference only.
It was removed later.(1800s)

There was a great respect for the new English Bible and the king did not want anyone tampering with any part of the collection of books.

This Catholic Church had done everything in their power to eradicate this KJV English Bible.

Now, the Protestants are doing it themselves!!!
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:05 AM
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Re: Obey them that have the rule over you

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I have an original 1611 KJV, it is very hard to read.
If the KJV Only crowd really believed their theory, they would use an actual 1611 Bible, not the updated versions.
the fact that they do not read or use the original 1611 KJV version is proof that they themselves do not believe their own propaganda.
by the way the original 1611 KJV had the Apocrypha in it.
So the KJV Only crowd must accept the Apocrypha otherwise they show themselves to be hypocrites.
I use a 1611 KJV and I can read it as I would today's English. Fact is, I
found those modern
versions very difficult to understand!
The hardest thing about the KJV is trying to find a scripture in the concordance...because
I have to use the "correct" English to access it.
I found the apocrypha to be incompatible with the KJV, and with
its doctrines.
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Old 01-14-2015, 07:59 PM
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I use a 1611 KJV and I can read it as I would today's English. Fact is, I
found those modern
versions very difficult to understand!
The hardest thing about the KJV is trying to find a scripture in the concordance...because
I have to use the "correct" English to access it.
I found the apocrypha to be incompatible with the KJV, and with
its doctrines.
Correction you use an "updated" 1611 KJV

You do not use a 1611 KJV.
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:26 PM
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I have an original 1611 KJV, it is very hard to read.

If the KJV Only crowd really believed their theory, they would use an actual 1611 Bible, not the updated versions.

the fact that they do not read or use the original 1611 KJV version is proof that they themselves do not believe their own propaganda.

by the way the original 1611 KJV had the Apocrypha in it.
So the KJV Only crowd must accept the Apocrypha otherwise they show themselves to be hypocrites.
This is ignorant.

The "updated" KJVs are updated in regards to spelling and typeface (font).

The Apocrypha was included in the KJV in between the OT and the NT. That fact, coupled with the fsct it was labelled "apocrypha", clearly shows the translators did not view it as the Word. They even prefaced it with a statement to that effect.

And yes, I have a 1611 version. And I doubt you have an original or a COPY of "the original" since the 1611s sold at bookstores are set in a different font. The ORIGINAL is in a calligraphic Olde English font whereas the store "facsimiles" are in a unique Romanized typeface. The store versions also lack the geneology charts. A true facsimile copy is available only one place and it ain't cheap.
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A true facsimile copy is available only one place and it ain't cheap.
I know it is not cheap, it cost me a pretty penny.
But I think it was worth every penny in order to show the KJV Crowd the foolishness of their idea.
A true KJV Only believer would Only use an exact copy like the one I have.
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