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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
My brain is having a freeze, please show me scripture that says we will return to earth to live forevermore. In our new immortal bodies.
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No problem.
I actually showed it to the other brother already.
God put Adam in the earth to have dominion on it. And when Adam fell, we required salvation, or redemption. redemption is the better word since it speaks of returning back to original status. And original status was ruling in earth.
And after the fall we read these words:
Psa 115:15-16 KJV Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. (16)
The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.
When did He give the earth to us? When He made Adam and
gave Him dominion over the earth.
Gen 1:26-28 KJV And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them
have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (27) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. (28) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and
replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
After the fall the mandate was the same.
Gen 9:1-2 KJV And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. (2) And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
If our eternal destiny was to die and go to heaven and stay there forevermore, then it is not redemption. There is no return to where we fell from. We did not exist in heaven when man sinned and fell so as to require a return to heaven by salvation. We fell while ruling the earth. And the return and redemption to that position means we will rule earth forever.
That is why we read of a new heaven and NEW EARTH. Whether the earth is physical planet or like some believe the SYSTEM and PEOPLE, the fact remains God gave the earth to men to rule.
God rules Heaven. Man is his image. And we rule earth like He rules heaven.
Then we read this:
Mat 5:5 KJV Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Psa 25:13 KJV His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
Psa 37:29 KJV The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
Psa 37:22 KJV For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
Revelation 21 speaks of no more light of the sun, etc. The same is found in Isaiah:
Isa 60:19-21 KJV The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. (20) Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. (21) Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.
That is the context of
Revelation 21! We do not read that is temporary. It is forever.
Why would God temporarily return us to rule the earth? That would be temporary redemption.
And I also asked you why physical death of Jesus was necessary to pay for our sins if physical death was supposed to happen anyway, and was not part of the cruse and fall? Physical death was never meant to happen. ALL death came from SIN. Not just spiritual death. And that means Adam was never meant to die had he not sinned. God did not will for man to sin as though he created man on earth and really wanted him in heaven forever, implying living forever on earth was never His ultimate will. That is adding to the situation and to the scripture. But because we read God created man in earth to rule earth and later sin brought death both spiritual and physical, we know God meant for us to remain forever on earth ruling it.
So, again, brethren, not just Loren, where does the bible say man is going to live forever in heaven?
I contend WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO HEAVEN, like Jesus does in his glorified spiritual and physical body, but that the body is actually meant for earth forever, and we'll primarily dwell on the earth after the resurrection.
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