Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

If the victim had not contacted the police herself in spite of being specifically told by the ministry not to tell anyone then it would have been covered up.

What's next? Islam was responsible for the Kennedy assassination?

Please source which Islamic Hadith, which Quranic passage, any, form the basis for "honor killings".

I will save you some time. Here is what your neighbors up in Canada have concluded about the origins of this practice.

From the Canadian department of Justice

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/c.../hk-ch/p3.html


6. Honour Killing - In Countries with Islamic Law

In many Arab countries, the practice of honour killing dates back to pre-Islamic times when Arab settlers occupied a region adjacent to Sindh, known as Baluchistan (in Pakistan).57 These Arab settlers had patriarchal traditions such as live burials of newly born daughters. Such traditions trace back to the earliest historic times of Ancient Babylon, where the predominant view was that a woman's virginity belonged to her family.58

There is no mention of honour killing in the Quran or Hadiths. Honour killing, in Islamic definitions, refers specifically to extra-legal punishment by the family against a woman, and is forbidden by the Sharia (Islamic law). Religious authorities disagree with extra punishments such as honour killing and prohibit it, so the practice of it is a cultural and not a religious issue. However, since Islam has influence over vast numbers of Muslims in many countries and from many cultures, some use Islam to justify honour killing even though there is no support for honour killing in Islam.

Traditional interpretations of Islamic law (or Sharia) prescribe severe punishments for zina, or extramarital sex, by both men and women. This is, however, not a new practice; it has been around since ancient times and is common practice in other religions and cultures as well. Under Islamic law, premarital sex could be punished by up to 100 lashes, while adultery is punishable by lethal stoning. The act must, however, be attested by at least four Muslim male witnesses of good character. Punishments are reserved to the legal authorities, and false accusations are themselves punished severely.

The execution of the Saudi Arabian princess Misha'al is an example of an honour killing in which the execution did not follow any Islamic religious court proceeding but was ordered directly by her grandfather after she admitted adultery.59

Interpretations of these rules vary. Some Arabs regard it as their right under both tradition and Sharia (by the process of al-urf), though this contradicts the views of the vast majority of Islamic scholars (fuqaha). Ayatollah Ali Khamenei of Iran has condemned the practice as "un-Islamic", though punishment under Iranian law remains lenient for those who commit honour-based killings.

In Indonesia, generally believed to be the country with the largest Muslim population, honour killings are unknown, as is the case in parts of West Africa with majority-Muslim populations and in many other Islamic countries such as Bangladesh. According to Sheikh Atiyyah Saqr, former head of the al-Azhar University Fatwa Committee:

Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification. Allah, Most High, says, "Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom." (An-Nisa': 93) The so-called "honor killing" is based on ignorance and disregard of morals and laws, which cannot be abolished except by disciplinary punishments

I ignored it not because I dodged it but because it is not found in the Islamic teachings (anywhere) and thus is not an Islamic practice. It is found in tradition and this tradition predates Islam.

Summary: It was a stupid question and did not warrant an immediate response.

You ignored it because you had to think on how you were going to respond.
Many things in all religions are adopted from prior pagan beliefs, in Christianity with pine trees and yule logs, Tibetan Buddhism with house spirit worship, female circumcision in different groups of Muslims, and honor killings. So, just like some Christians decking the halls with bows of holly, you have Muslim honor killings in America. Whether or not it is found in your religious writings your "peeps" still conduct the practices.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...rican-tragedy/

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You ignored it because you had to think on how you were going to respond.
Many things in all religions are adopted from prior pagan beliefs, in Christianity with pine trees and yule logs, Tibetan Buddhism with house spirit worship, female circumcision in different groups of Muslims, and honor killings. So, just like some Christians decking the halls with bows of holly, you have Muslim honor killings in America. Whether or not it is found in your religious writings your "peeps" still conduct the practices.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...rican-tragedy/

Responded with the same answer pages back. Advised to research those practices when i did. Found some "white people" analysis this time since y'all are so scared of factual information y'all won't open links. You wont even really read the information from the links. Only an idiot would conclude no cover up from a criminal case summary affirming a conviction for cover up would be a good example of that. Do you have something else? Honor killings are an issue in India as well. India is not a Muslim country. Pointed that out months ago.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Responded with the same answer pages back. Advised to research those practices when i did. Found some "white people" analysis this time since y'all are so scared of factual information y'all won't open links. You wont even really read the information from the links. Only an idiot would conclude no cover up from a criminal case summary affirming a conviction for cover up would be a good example of that. Do you have something else? Honor killings are an issue in India as well. India is not a Muslim country. Pointed that out months ago.

Honor killings an Issue in India, Sadhus eating dead corpses and rubbing themselves down with the ashes of the cremated corpse is an issue also in India. But can't find the same number of Apostolic Pentecostals involved in honor killings.

There is a lot on Muslim honor killings.

So, Walks in Islam, what is the number of honor killings, female circumcisions, suicide bombers, beheading journalists, beheading Christians, cutting the hands off of Christians, and United Pentecostal crimes. Do they balance out? Do they come close to each other? Is the United Pentecostal Church even a blip on the radar compared to the issues of Islam in its different flavors?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Honor killings an Issue in India, Sadhus eating dead corpses and rubbing themselves down with the ashes of the cremated corpse is an issue also in India. But can't find the same number of Apostolic Pentecostals involved in honor killings.

There is a lot on Muslim honor killings.

So, Walks in Islam, what is the number of honor killings, female circumcisions, suicide bombers, beheading journalists, beheading Christians, cutting the hands off of Christians, and United Pentecostal crimes. Do they balance out? Do they come close to each other? Is the United Pentecostal Church even a blip on the radar compared to the issues of Islam in its different flavors?

Honor killings in African and Arab countries are not "Muslim". Next. You seem worked up. Participated in one of those public confessions maybe. "Prefer to handle it within the chirch?" Lol.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Honor killings in African and Arab countries are not "Muslim". Next.

The ones I showed you which happened in the United States are.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The ones I showed you which happened in the United States are.

Except the practice is strangely missing in Islamic Hadith and in the Quran. So random acts of violence by any American are assigned to christians?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Except the practice is strangely missing in Islamic Hadith and in the Quran. So random acts of violence by any American are assigned to christians?

It would be assigned to Christians if Christians had a habit of killing their children in honor killings. Didn't Walk with Islam already make the argument that honor killings were part of some tradition which were extra Quranic?
You did post that right? So, Honor killings are associated with your group.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Honor killings in African and Arab countries are not "Muslim". Next. You seem worked up. Participated in one of those public confessions maybe. "Prefer to handle it within the chirch?" Lol.

You again are wrong.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Honor killings in African and Arab countries are not "Muslim". Next. You seem worked up. Participated in one of those public confessions maybe. "Prefer to handle it within the chirch?" Lol.

But they a part of the Muslim culture in those countries.

Who is going to tell these Muslims its wrong? Why does Islam come into those nations and tell them certain things are wrong but leave honor killings and female mutilation alone?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Honor killings an Issue in India, Sadhus eating dead corpses and rubbing themselves down with the ashes of the cremated corpse is an issue also in India. But can't find the same number of Apostolic Pentecostals involved in honor killings.

There is a lot on Muslim honor killings.

So, Walks in Islam, what is the number of honor killings, female circumcisions, suicide bombers, beheading journalists, beheading Christians, cutting the hands off of Christians, and United Pentecostal crimes. Do they balance out? Do they come close to each other? Is the United Pentecostal Church even a blip on the radar compared to the issues of Islam in its different flavors?

Much of Islam are living in the dark ages socially speaking