Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I don't LASH my children, do you LASH your children? How old are you in your 20s?

Interesting, Walks in Islam brings up something about a child be beaten for listening to music? Yet never touches a story about a Muslim shooting his two daughters, and another Muslim father running his daughter over with his car?

I think you win Walks in Islam.

You have the more gruesome religion.

Or marry the youngest off at 14?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Or marry the youngest off at 14?

Even though we are discussing immigration and invasion senor no need to bring our southern neighbors or their marriage and consent policies into this thread. Start another on that.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Even though we are discussing immigration and invasion senor no need to bring our southern neighbors or their marriage and consent policies into this thread. Start another on that.

As I said before, Ive been in conversations with many Muslim men and they ALL justify older men..sometimes upwards of 60 years old, to 14 year old girls

They justify it by arguing that its better than the alternative which is raping her or adultery with an older woman...

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

As I said before, Ive been in conversations with many Muslim men and they ALL justify older men..sometimes upwards of 60 years old, to 14 year old girls

They justify it by arguing that its better than the alternative which is raping her or adultery with an older woman...

you actually wont find that in the Quran or Hadith. See previous discussion on marriage age and marriage in general.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

you actually wont find that in the Quran or Hadith. See previous discussion on marriage age and marriage in general.

Walks do you read what we are posting?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

you actually wont find that in the Quran or Hadith. See previous discussion on marriage age and marriage in general.

But what is it about Islam that all those men justify it? BTW we all know Muhammad married Aisha as a little girl.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

But what is it about Islam that all those men justify it? BTW we all know Muhammad married Aisha as a little girl.

Ah, good Q. Muslim men have a complex, there is no denying it. Many of the men are charming, but complete whores. I cnt really say that i see much difference in their treatment of women v our standard, unless it be that maybe satan was able to take it a little further with them via the fgm thing, was my take on it. satan attacks the men in a society, and this is how it was expressed with Muslims. It isnt better or worse, but just different. They love their women, too. It isn't as if we werent swimming in our own heathen practices.

I was most affected by seeing the radiance of the more oppressed in Muslim women. This Scriptural principle, that one might not think to apply to a non Christian, is actually just a constant. It comes out in their men, also, if one is meek in approach.

Suffering expunges sin, and Ishmael is called to contend with you, that your premises may be revealed. If you think God does not love Ishmael as much as Isaac, read the text again; this was Abraham's son also, even if it was Abraham's idea. None of you have 7 nations coming from your loins.

So if you really think that there's any diff in Islamophobia or angelic rebellion (stemming from the angels' refusal to bow to humans, or otherwise) then I'd be curious to hear it.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

But what is it about Islam that all those men justify it? BTW we all know Muhammad married Aisha as a little girl.

See previous (detailed and exhausting) discussion about marriage and marriage age. It has been justified and allowed through all of history until the 19th century and it certainly was not the church, any church, that changed it and it certainly was not a scripture, or passage, or verse, or religious teaching, that triggered that change.

I wonder why you and your fellows, while cheerfully pointing out that this has not been changed in Islamic teaching, cannot explain what is it about the UPC that all of these ministers still justify it. They demonstrate this justification by acting out on it.

It is bad enough that not only the individuals, but the organization itself was named as a defendant in the prosecution of it. I did not prosecute your organization, Texas did. Texas did not do that because the UPC was taking a stand about it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

But what is it about Islam that all those men justify it? BTW we all know Muhammad married Aisha as a little girl.

Surat Al-'Aĥzāb 33:21

There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an EXCELLENT PATTERN for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.

Muhsin Khan

Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a GOOD EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.

Yusuf Ali

Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a BEAUTIFUL PATTERN (OF CONDUCT) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

Shakir

Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an EXCELLENT EXEMPLAR for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

Sahih Muslim 8. 3310

'A'ISHA (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was SIX YEARS OLD, and I was admitted to his house when I was NINE YEARS OLD.

Sahih Bukhari 7. 62. 65

Narrated 'A'ISHA: that the Prophet married her when she was SIX YEARS OLD and he CONSUMMATED his marriage when she was NINE YEARS OLD. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari 7. 62. 88

Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was SIX YEARS OLD and CONSUMMATED his marriage with her while she was NINE YEARS OLD and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Surat Al-'Aĥzāb 33:21

There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an EXCELLENT PATTERN for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.

Muhsin Khan

Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a GOOD EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.

Yusuf Ali

Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a BEAUTIFUL PATTERN (OF CONDUCT) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

Shakir

Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an EXCELLENT EXEMPLAR for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

Sahih Muslim 8. 3310

'A'ISHA (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was SIX YEARS OLD, and I was admitted to his house when I was NINE YEARS OLD.

Sahih Bukhari 7. 62. 65

Narrated 'A'ISHA: that the Prophet married her when she was SIX YEARS OLD and he CONSUMMATED his marriage when she was NINE YEARS OLD. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari 7. 62. 88

Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was SIX YEARS OLD and CONSUMMATED his marriage with her while she was NINE YEARS OLD and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Missing: The bible verse that condemns this action.