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Old 02-01-2015, 10:02 PM
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Sorry, no time to read a booklet. Let's deal with it here if we can. Again, my issue is that if Adam did not make us sinners then Christ did not make us righteous.

Do you believe Christ made us righteous without our good works?
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Let's deal with it here if we can. Again, my issue is that if Adam did not make us sinners then Christ did not make us righteous.

Do you believe Christ made us righteous without our good works?
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Let's deal with it here if we can. Again, my issue is that if Adam did not make us sinners then Christ did not make us righteous.
Do you believe Christ made us righteous without our good works?
I submit that "original sin" was dealt with at the cross.
The prophet said, "In sin did my mother conceive me..." (sic: I was conceived
in my mother's womb). Sin was inherited through Adam, and the prophet's own parents.
Additionally, we do not inherit our fathers' sins for "...the father shall not
bear the sins of the son, neither shall the son bear the sins of the father."

Today, we did not inherit Adam's sin; only his propensity to sin.

Your question is dubious: the Lord's sacrifice is moot unless we "Repent, and be baptized
everyone of you in the NAME of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall
receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
So we are made righteous BY HIS good works;
furthermore, man are OFFERED His righteousness via the cross.
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:59 AM
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I submit that "original sin" was dealt with at the cross.
The prophet said, "In sin did my mother conceive me..." (sic: I was conceived
in my mother's womb). Sin was inherited through Adam, and the prophet's own parents.
Additionally, we do not inherit our fathers' sins for "...the father shall not
bear the sins of the son, neither shall the son bear the sins of the father."

Today, we did not inherit Adam's sin; only his propensity to sin.

Your question is dubious: the Lord's sacrifice is moot unless we "Repent, and be baptized
everyone of you in the NAME of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall
receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
So we are made righteous BY HIS good works;
furthermore, man are OFFERED His righteousness via the cross.
I agree righteousness comes only through the work of the cross. By His good works. Why did you say my question was dubious? I am not universalist.
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I agree righteousness comes only through the work of the cross. By His good works. Why did you say my question was dubious? I am not universalist.
Beloved, I did not understand where the question was coming from: so I only answered as I felt it was meant.
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