Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Barb

Shaz, I have a question: do Muslims accept non-Muslims as brothers?

The reason I am asking, "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Qur'an 48:29).

Is this quote correct, and is it your belief?

No they do not. If they did would they seek to convert us?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No they do not. If they did would they seek to convert us?

Oh I know they do not, and I would like Shaz to answer this quote from his Qur'an. He and the Islam Walker are quick to point fingers at us...what about this, Shaz?

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Qur'an 48:29).

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Barb

Oh I know they do not, and I would like Shaz to answer this quote from his Qur'an. He and the Islam Walker are quick to point fingers at us...what about this, Shaz?

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Qur'an 48:29).

“Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” Quran 2:62

The Quran does not define you or other Christians as unbelievers - as you define Muslims. You are cast, according to the Quran, according to your conduct. Just as you will be judged, according to several references in your bible, according to your deeds.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

“Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” Quran 2:62

The Quran does not define you or other Christians as unbelievers - as you define Muslims. You are cast, according to the Quran, according to your conduct. Just as you will be judged, according to several references in your bible, according to your deeds.

Walks, "Mohammed is God's apostle." I do NOT believe this nor do I believe that Allah is god. SO that makes me an unbeliever, according to the Qur'an.

"Those who follow him (Mohammed) are harsh to the unbelievers (that would be me) but merciful to one another (Muslims)."

The Qur'an may not specifically call Jews and Christians out as unbelievers, but common sense dictates that this is so.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Barb

Walks, "Mohammed is God's apostle." I do NOT believe this nor do I believe that Allah is god. SO that makes me an unbeliever, according to the Qur'an.

"Those who follow him (Mohammed) are harsh to the unbelievers (that would be me) but merciful to one another (Muslims)."

The Qur'an may not specifically call Jews and Christians out as unbelievers, but common sense dictates that this is so.

I certainly can understand your point of view from the standpoint of a christian for the same reason I can understand how a message on tolerance and reconciliation became something else. From the standpoint of the Quran However, this is not the only reference to the "people of the book" (Jews and Christians) as equal to Muslim believers.