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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Holy magic hair doctrine is a lie
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there is a difference between lying and being wrong about a believe. Using your criteria we can all call you a liar for your belief of Islam
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05-05-2015, 04:05 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
...disregarding that the Qur'an says we should all follow Christ's example, of course.
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well, you miss the point that they may be lost, i don't know--that is for you OPs, obviously, to decide. I'm sure it's a doubly heavy burden for you, what with that cross on the other shoulder and all...  yikes
Jesus is just so lucky to have you guys. Oh, thank You, Lord, that you have sent someone to point out Your Divine Condemnation to us, and to guide us in the Perfect Procedures by which we might grope our way toward you (neverminding that little kids already get it), to discover that wondrous baptism (no, not his way, or their way, but MY way; you'll have to redux it!)  |
not meaning to be such a jerk to you personally, Mr Blume; you are stating a widely held opinion, and i know that you are convinced that Scripture is backing you up. However, as i've just recently mentioned--again--the Qur'an agrees with you, @ "Christ," in principle; do you still feel justified in condemning them all to hell? Are you sure that they may not largely have a better conception of Christ than you? How? What about all of the Eastern Orthodox Christians, who seem to have no problem accepting Muslims as brothers? Are they all going to hell, too?
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05-05-2015, 04:42 PM
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ah, that must be why he is considered a prophet to billions...you should prolly educate them.
taking a little time off from advocating clever death-traps for the misled devout, huh? Sling it, babe. You might be a little more offensive if you just made up a little cartoon there, Charlie.
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"Prolly?" What, are you still in grade-school? And I'm NOT your babe.
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05-05-2015, 04:48 PM
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ah, that must be why he is considered a prophet to billions...
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So billions are wrong. Just because there are, I would say, millions (not billions) who believe he's a prophet doesn't make it so.
Wide is the way... Many there be who find it...
Narrow is the way...few go therein...
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05-05-2015, 04:49 PM
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there is a difference between lying and being wrong about a believe. Using your criteria we can all call you a liar for your belief of Islam
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Bingo.
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05-05-2015, 04:52 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by shazeep
...disregarding that the Qur'an says we should all follow Christ's example, of course.not meaning to be such a jerk to you personally, Mr Blume; you are stating a widely held opinion, and i know that you are convinced that Scripture is backing you up. However, as i've just recently mentioned--again--the Qur'an agrees with you, @ "Christ," in principle; do you still feel justified in condemning them all to hell? Are you sure that they may not largely have a better conception of Christ than you? How? What about all of the Eastern Orthodox Christians, who seem to have no problem accepting Muslims as brothers? Are they all going to hell, too?
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Shaz, I have a question: do Muslims accept non-Muslims as brothers?
The reason I am asking, "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Qur'an 48:29).
Is this quote correct, and is it your belief?
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05-05-2015, 05:44 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by shazeep
...disregarding that the Qur'an says we should all follow Christ's example, of course.not meaning to be such a jerk to you personally, Mr Blume; you are stating a widely held opinion, and i know that you are convinced that Scripture is backing you up. However, as i've just recently mentioned--again--the Qur'an agrees with you, @ "Christ," in principle; do you still feel justified in condemning them all to hell? Are you sure that they may not largely have a better conception of Christ than you? How? What about all of the Eastern Orthodox Christians, who seem to have no problem accepting Muslims as brothers? Are they all going to hell, too?
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The Quran DENIES what the bible says about Christ is true.
It denies He is the Son
It denies he died, let alone for the sins of all humans
It has another Christ
It's the bible that condemns them.
Muslims, MOST of the ones I have run into, condemn ALL Christians to hell
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-05-2015, 05:45 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by shazeep
ah, that must be why he is considered a prophet to billions...
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To all those Muslims, Jesus is just a prophet, not The Savior of the World
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-05-2015, 05:46 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by Barb
Shaz, I have a question: do Muslims accept non-Muslims as brothers?
The reason I am asking, "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Qur'an 48:29).
Is this quote correct, and is it your belief?
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No they do not. If they did would they seek to convert us?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-05-2015, 06:17 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN
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Originally Posted by shazeep
well, you miss the point that they may be lost, i don't know--that is for you OPs, obviously, to decide. I'm sure it's a doubly heavy burden for you, what with that cross on the other shoulder and all... yikes |
Oh please. You cannot accept what I say, and put words in my mouth and slam the strawman you created. I said God's Word states they are lost and I am only repeating what it said. Don't talk about honesty and integrity if you have to twist our words and respond to them.
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Jesus is just so lucky to have you guys. Oh, thank You, Lord, that you have sent someone to point out Your Divine Condemnation to us, and to guide us in the Perfect Procedures by which we might grope our way toward you (neverminding that little kids already get it), to discover that wondrous baptism (no, not his way, or their way, but MY way; you'll have to redux it!)
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That's sick. You're not even being honest.
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