Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.

[obriencp]

Originally Posted by 2theX

...If the PAW's took a swan dive into the pavement...

Please support your assertion. Please show all of us where the PAWs doctrinal stances have changed.

[2theX]

Originally Posted by obriencp

Please support your assertion. Please show all of us where the PAWs doctrinal stances have changed.

"I think the "relaxed" standards of the PAW make it a more..."

Holiness is inward and outward. This holiness Doctrine we oneness, Jesus name,tongue talking Apostolics live and preach is straight out of the scripture.
If you need the Chapter an verse: will you believe if you see it in the Bible?

[obriencp]

Originally Posted by 2theX

"I think the "relaxed" standards of the PAW make it a more..."

Holiness is inward and outward. This holiness Doctrine we oneness, Jesus name,tongue talking Apostolics live and preach is straight out of the scripture.
If you need the Chapter an verse: will you believe if you see it in the Bible?

if you are referring to their outward dress, that has changed with the times. Some may have held to certain standards such as no makeup, jewelry, shorts, short sleeves, etc, but I never knew there to be organizational guidelines. They may have looked more like the UPCI years ago, but as fashions have changed their attire has changed with it. They still dress modestly, but of course that is subjective.

They still teach oneness, jesus name baptism, speaking in tongues, second coming, etc etc. Doctrinally they are the same as UPCI, outward 'holiness' standards of theirs are different.

Are you in disagreement because of their appearance or official doctrinal stances? If doctrinal stances, then show us where they don't align doctrinally with the UPCI.

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by 2theX

"I think the "relaxed" standards of the PAW make it a more..."

Holiness is inward and outward. This holiness Doctrine we oneness, Jesus name,tongue talking Apostolics live and preach is straight out of the scripture.
If you need the Chapter an verse: will you believe if you see it in the Bible?

Yes by all means...please show me where I missed the verse where men are commanded that they are unworthy to minister if they have facial hair in the NT church? It isn't showing up in any of my bibles, concordances or search tools.

[2theX]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

Yes by all means...please show me where I missed the verse where men are commanded that they are unworthy to minister if they have facial hair in the NT church? It isn't showing up in any of my bibles, concordances or search tools.

Altough there's already some hot topics and threads on Standards in the forum; I'll touch briefly about my own feelings about it.
I personally think facial hair is discernment of judgment call by conservitive leadership and for good reason; which we could start [or there might be one already] another thread and discuss.
But the makeup, dress code and jewelry is in The Bible.
And can't be denied its there...sorry I'm limited on time with my work schedule otherwise id post the Scriptures too..
But you keep saying "besides that" [referring to their appearance] "their doctrine is the same". Look up what happened to the Nicolations: they started mixing the flesh [or the worldy things] with the the right message but Jesus was not happy with them.
Hopefully most of the PAW,s dont go along with this "new" teaching, because it looks to me like they have moved away from sound Doctrine: a lot of church's usually go downhill from there, unless they repent of course.
These are the "last days" and perilous times are here!
We need to be praying for each other that we stay strong in the Lord: and coming out from amongst them and being separate is one of the ways we do this.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by 2theX

Altough there's already some hot topics and threads on Standards in the forum; I'll touch briefly about my own feelings about it.
I personally think facial hair is discernment of judgment call by conservitive leadership and for good reason; which we could start [or there might be one already] another thread and discuss.
But the makeup, dress code and jewelry is in The Bible.
And can't be denied its there...sorry I'm limited on time with my work schedule otherwise id post the Scriptures too..
But you keep saying "besides that" [referring to their appearance] "their doctrine is the same". Look up what happened to the Nicolations: they started mixing the flesh [or the worldy things] with the the right message but Jesus was not happy with them.
Hopefully most of the PAW,s dont go along with this "new" teaching, because it looks to me like they have moved away from sound Doctrine: a lot of church's usually go downhill from there, unless they repent of course.
These are the "last days" and perilous times are here!
We need to be praying for each other that we stay strong in the Lord: and coming out from amongst them and being separate is one of the ways we do this.

Respectfully you must live in a box. Who are these conservatives you speak of that will bless us with their wisdom? God has always had a people since ancient times! Men wearing beards, women wearing jewelry, etc. The P.A.W. was here long before the upc was even thought of.

Now you think they need to repent before they go down hill. They will be here when you are dead and gone.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by 2theX

Altough there's already some hot topics and threads on Standards in the forum; I'll touch briefly about my own feelings about it.
I personally think facial hair is discernment of judgment call by conservitive leadership and for good reason; which we could start [or there might be one already] another thread and discuss.
But the makeup, dress code and jewelry is in The Bible.
And can't be denied its there...sorry I'm limited on time with my work schedule otherwise id post the Scriptures too..
But you keep saying "besides that" [referring to their appearance] "their doctrine is the same". Look up what happened to the Nicolations: they started mixing the flesh [or the worldy things] with the the right message but Jesus was not happy with them.
Hopefully most of the PAW,s dont go along with this "new" teaching, because it looks to me like they have moved away from sound Doctrine: a lot of church's usually go downhill from there, unless they repent of course.
These are the "last days" and perilous times are here!
We need to be praying for each other that we stay strong in the Lord: and coming out from amongst them and being separate is one of the ways we do this.

"I personally think", well it is not what you think or what anyone thinks it is what does the Bible says, and the Bible speaks positively about beards.
Your "I personally think" has no more value than what an Atheist would think.

Neither is it about the discernment or judgment of any group of people, it is what does says the Lord in his Bible.

"But the makeup, dress code and jewelry is in The Bible."
Really? Where? I read the Bible and I do not see it, are you reading the same Bible I am reading? by the way I usually read the KJV, so I might have missed those verses that teach such things, could you please point them out to me?

Oh wait, I found it , it is in Genesis 24:47 "Then I put the ring in her nose and the bracelets on her arms" Oh I get it, Godly women are supposed to wear rings in their noses and bracelets on their arms.

or perhaps you mean Ezekiel 16:11-13 "Where God himself says "I adorned you with jewelry: I put bracelets on your arms and a necklace around your neck, and I put a ring on your nose, earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head So you were adorned with gold and silver; your clothes were of fine linen and costly fabric and embroidered cloth"
Since God can not sin nor condone sinful practices, then we must imitate God and adorn our brides with Gold and silver.

thank you for showing me in the Bible what God thinks of adorning our brides with Gold and Silver.