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Old 10-30-2015, 06:38 AM
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Sean still quoting OT scripture trying to prove a literal second coming of Christ.

Jesus will build it...Zech 6:13 12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Sean where does this say this temple is a literal temple on the earth? It does not except in your imagination. Jesus said the "law and prophets prophesied till John" Meaning that they all pointed to the time that John began his ministry declaring the kingdom of God had come. Jesus sent his disciples out to preach the Kingdom of God had come.

Passage after passage in the new testament teach us that we are the temple of God and Christ sits on the throne of our hearts. This is the temple of God this passage is addressing. Not some literal temple in Jerusalem.

The whole point of the cross was God changing from a literal earthly temple to a spiritual temple in the hearts of his people.
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Sean still quoting OT scripture trying to prove a literal second coming of Christ.

Jesus will build it...Zech 6:13 12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Sean where does this say this temple is a literal temple on the earth? It does not except in your imagination. Jesus said the "law and prophets prophesied till John" Meaning that they all pointed to the time that John began his ministry declaring the kingdom of God had come. Jesus sent his disciples out to preach the Kingdom of God had come.

Passage after passage in the new testament teach us that we are the temple of God and Christ sits on the throne of our hearts. This is the temple of God this passage is addressing. Not some literal temple in Jerusalem.

The whole point of the cross was God changing from a literal earthly temple to a spiritual temple in the hearts of his people.




So you think the Lord was misleading the prophet, all of Israel and average Christian readers in the passage?

He never meant that He was building the temple Himself, even though it says he would?

I believe it exactly like it says it.

The Lord builds a physical temple, He destroys the earth at the end of the Age, then the temple is never to be seen again, because the LORD is the "spiritual" temple in heaven after the new Heaven and Earth are created......

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
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So you think the Lord was misleading the prophet, all of Israel and average Christian readers in the passage?

He never meant that He was building the temple Himself, even though it says he would?

I believe it exactly like it says it.

The Lord builds a physical temple, He destroys the earth at the end of the Age, then the temple is never to be seen again, because the LORD is the "spiritual" temple in heaven after the new Heaven and Earth are created......

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Sean we know you can't read, beyond "see Jane run" reader series. Or you would understand what is being said.

You continue to ignore all the passages in the NT that tell us that "we are the temple of God" , "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." "know you not that you are the temple of God".

You can try all you want to force OT scripture to mean another physical temple, but there is not one place that says there will be another physical temple built and recognized by God as holy. The only temple of God is the church made up of Jew and Gentile, now and forever more.

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. We the church enter in and become part of this temple today.

And by the way, "all Israel is saved" the same way the whole world is saved today. Through the blood of Christ.
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Sean we know you can't read, beyond "see Jane run" reader series. Or you would understand what is being said.

You continue to ignore all the passages in the NT that tell us that "we are the temple of God" , "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." "know you not that you are the temple of God".

Agreed, Loren.


You can try all you want to force OT scripture to mean another physical temple, but there is not one place that says there will be another physical temple built and recognized by God as holy. The only temple of God is the church made up of Jew and Gentile, now and forever more.

So that means, even after the "temples" of God are raptured, the sinners left behind ARE HIS TEMPLES?

Now do you see why a temple is built by Jesus after the rapture?


Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. We the church enter in and become part of this temple today.

Of course. And we will continue as part of it, even though eternity, after our resurrection, as depicted in Rev. 21 above.

And by the way, "all Israel is saved" the same way the whole world is saved today. Through the blood of Christ.

Replacement Theology, huh Loren. Ya just could not resist stealing the promise of Jeremiah 31 from future Israel again...Shame on you, RT MAN!
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Replacement Theology, huh Loren. Ya just could not resist stealing the promise of Jeremiah 31 from future Israel again...Shame on you, RT MAN!

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves ARE GOD'S TEMPLE and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? Know ye not that your body is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost which is in you and which ye have from God, and that ye are not your own?

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. As God hath said: “I will dwell in them and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ephesians 2:20-22

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord:In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


Sean Jesus already built the temple it's called His Body.

Yet, you wouldn't understand Jeremiah 31 if the prophet was standing on your chest and explaining it to you in 17th century English.
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1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves ARE GOD'S TEMPLE and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? Know ye not that your body is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost which is in you and which ye have from God, and that ye are not your own?

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. As God hath said: “I will dwell in them and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ephesians 2:20-22

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord:In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


Sean Jesus already built the temple it's called His Body.

Yet, you wouldn't understand Jeremiah 31 if the prophet was standing on your chest and explaining it to you in 17th century English.



If you were not such a Moron, you would notice that Jesus dwells in things.

He dwells in His people now, but will dwell in a future Temple that He will build, for those in the Millennial that are NOT His people to approach Him.

These people....Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little
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Jesus dwells in things.
Jesus dwells in things?

You mean like Vishnu? Or Navaho tree spirits?


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He dwells in His people now, but will dwell in a future Temple that He will build, for those in the Millennial that are NOT His people to approach Him.
Revelation 21:22

I SAW NO TEMPLE IN IT, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb ARE ITS TEMPLE.


Sean, you always make it up as you go along.

There is NO TEMPLE there, the Mighty God in Christ is the TEMPLE. The Body of Christ.


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These people....Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little
The verses are for those who reject Christ, which simply sadly you may be on that list?
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Ezekiel 40:39 And in the porch of the gate were two tables on this side, and two tables on that side, to slay thereon the burnt offering and THE SIN OFFERING and the TRESPASS OFFERING.

Ezekiel 42:13 Then said he unto me, The north chambers and the south chambers, which are before the separate place, they be holy chambers, where the priests that approach unto the LORD shall eat the MOST HOLY THINGS: there shall they lay the MOST HOLY THINGS, and the meat offering, and the SIN OFFERING, and the TRESPASS OFFERING; for THE PLACE IS HOLY.

Ezekiel 43:19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord GOD, a young bullock for a SIN OFFERING.

Ezekiel 43:21-22 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it IN THE APPOINTED PLACE OF THE HOUSE, without the sanctuary. And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the GOATS without blemish for A SIN OFFERING; and they shall CLEANSE THE ALTAR, as they did CLEANSE IT with the bullock.

Ezekiel 43:25-27 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day A GOAT FOR A SIN OFFERING: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish. Seven days shall they PURGE THE ALTAR AND PURIFY IT; and they shall consecrate themselves. And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your PEACE OFFERINGS; and I WILL ACCEPT YOU, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 44:29-30 They shall eat the meat offering, and the SIN OFFERING, and the TRESPASS OFFERING; and every dedicated thing in Israel shall be theirs. And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest's: ye shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause the blessing to rest in thine house.

Ezekiel 45:17-23 And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the SIN OFFERING, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and THE PEACE OFFERINGS, TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary: And the priest shall take of THE BLOOD OF THE SIN OFFERING, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court. And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erreth, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house. In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten. And upon that day shall THE PRINCE SHALL PREPARE FOR HIMSELF AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND A BULLOCK FOR A SIN OFFERING. And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the GOATS daily for a SIN OFFERING.

Ezekiel 45:25 In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to THE SIN OFFERING, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.

Ezekiel 46:20 Then said he unto me, This is the place where the priests shall boil the TRESPASS OFFERING and THE SIN OFFERING, where they shall bake the meat offering; that they bear them not out into the utter court, to sanctify the people.


Sean please explain why there are all the sin sacrificing going on in this temple? Who is the Prince? Who is not only performing a sacrifice, but a sin sacrifice, not only for the people, but for Himself?

These sacrifices are being offered for the people, and the prince in order to bring reconciliation? Sean, please explain why this is happening since Jesus Christ was the final sacrifice? Also Sean, please show how Hebrews 10 doesn't refutes the idea of Ezekiel's temple being something supposed to happen in the future.
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So that means, even after the "temples" of God are raptured, the sinners left behind ARE HIS TEMPLES?

Replacement Theology, huh Loren. Ya just could not resist stealing the promise of Jeremiah 31 from future Israel again...Shame on you, RT MAN!
Sorry Sean as I don't believe in the rapture, so your point is moot. There WAS a resurrection of the dead, and those living were changed, so that they die they go straight to be with the Lord, same as us today. We are change by the spirit of God when we become saved. And we go straight to be with God when we die.
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So you think the Lord was misleading the prophet, all of Israel and average Christian readers in the passage?

He never meant that He was building the temple Himself, even though it says he would?

I believe it exactly like it says it.

The Lord builds a physical temple, He destroys the earth at the end of the Age, then the temple is never to be seen again, because the LORD is the "spiritual" temple in heaven after the new Heaven and Earth are created......

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Wow you are all banged up when it comes to even the simplest scripture verse.
If I didn't know you from reading hours of your insanity I would think you were kidding but I know you're not. You actually believe the plain reading of Revelation 21:22 means a physical temple is in the New Jerusalem?
All one can do with you from this point on is to mock your every move. You don't care about Bible, or souls. You are simply sadistic.
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