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[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sean

So you think the Lord was misleading the prophet, all of Israel and average Christian readers in the passage?

He never meant that He was building the temple Himself, even though it says he would?

I believe it exactly like it says it.

The Lord builds a physical temple, He destroys the earth at the end of the Age, then the temple is never to be seen again, because the LORD is the "spiritual" temple in heaven after the new Heaven and Earth are created......

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Sean we know you can't read, beyond "see Jane run" reader series. Or you would understand what is being said.

You continue to ignore all the passages in the NT that tell us that "we are the temple of God" , "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." "know you not that you are the temple of God".

You can try all you want to force OT scripture to mean another physical temple, but there is not one place that says there will be another physical temple built and recognized by God as holy. The only temple of God is the church made up of Jew and Gentile, now and forever more.

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. We the church enter in and become part of this temple today.

And by the way, "all Israel is saved" the same way the whole world is saved today. Through the blood of Christ.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Sean we know you can't read, beyond "see Jane run" reader series. Or you would understand what is being said.

You continue to ignore all the passages in the NT that tell us that "we are the temple of God" , "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." "know you not that you are the temple of God".

Agreed, Loren.


You can try all you want to force OT scripture to mean another physical temple, but there is not one place that says there will be another physical temple built and recognized by God as holy. The only temple of God is the church made up of Jew and Gentile, now and forever more.

So that means, even after the "temples" of God are raptured, the sinners left behind ARE HIS TEMPLES?

Now do you see why a temple is built by Jesus after the rapture?

Rev 21;22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. We the church enter in and become part of this temple today.

Of course. And we will continue as part of it, even though eternity, after our resurrection, as depicted in Rev. 21 above.

And by the way, "all Israel is saved" the same way the whole world is saved today. Through the blood of Christ.

Replacement Theology, huh Loren. Ya just could not resist stealing the promise of Jeremiah 31 from future Israel again...Shame on you, RT MAN!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Replacement Theology, huh Loren. Ya just could not resist stealing the promise of Jeremiah 31 from future Israel again...Shame on you, RT MAN!

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves ARE GOD'S TEMPLE and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? Know ye not that your body is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost which is in you and which ye have from God, and that ye are not your own?

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. As God hath said: “I will dwell in them and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ephesians 2:20-22

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord:In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Sean Jesus already built the temple it's called His Body.

Yet, you wouldn't understand Jeremiah 31 if the prophet was standing on your chest and explaining it to you in 17th century English.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves ARE GOD'S TEMPLE and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? Know ye not that your body is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost which is in you and which ye have from God, and that ye are not your own?

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. As God hath said: “I will dwell in them and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ephesians 2:20-22

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord:In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Sean Jesus already built the temple it's called His Body.

Yet, you wouldn't understand Jeremiah 31 if the prophet was standing on your chest and explaining it to you in 17th century English.

If you were not such a Moron, you would notice that Jesus dwells in things.

He dwells in His people now, but will dwell in a future Temple that He will build, for those in the Millennial that are NOT His people to approach Him.

These people....Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

If you were not such a Moron, you would notice that

Jesus dwells in things.

Jesus dwells in things?

You mean like Vishnu? Or Navaho tree spirits?

Originally Posted by Sean

He dwells in His people now, but will dwell in a future Temple that He will build, for those in the Millennial that are NOT His people to approach Him.

Revelation 21:22

I SAW NO TEMPLE IN IT, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb ARE ITS TEMPLE.

Sean, you always make it up as you go along.

There is NO TEMPLE there, the Mighty God in Christ is the TEMPLE. The Body of Christ.

Originally Posted by Sean

These people....Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little

The verses are for those who reject Christ, which simply sadly you may be on that list?

[mfblume]

God is never going back to the days of shadows, like temples made with hands and animal sacrifices, any more. Shadows are gone. The body that cast the shadows is Christ, and Christ remaineth while the shadows vanished for good. It is going to the past of former weaker and lesser covenants to believe God will sanction temples and animal blood again.

Where is there one statement by Jesus and the apostles saying God will indwell a temple made by hands and accept animal blood again?

That conclusion derives from nothing more than mistaken interpretations of scripture. Anything we believe in regards of what shall be must be plainly stated in scripture by Jesus and the apostles, not taken from the Old Testament and forced into some future belief system of prophecy when the Lord and Apostles never confirmed such a future belief one single time.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

God is never going back to the days of shadows, like temples made with hands and animal sacrifices, any more. Shadows are gone. The body that cast the shadows is Christ, and Christ remaineth while the shadows vanished for good. It is going to the past of former weaker and lesser covenants to believe God will sanction temples and animal blood again.

Where is there one statement by Jesus and the apostles saying God will indwell a temple made by hands and accept animal blood again?

That conclusion derives from nothing more than mistaken interpretations of scripture. Anything we believe in regards of what shall be must be plainly stated in scripture by Jesus and the apostles, not taken from the Old Testament and forced into some future belief system of prophecy when the Lord and Apostles never confirmed such a future belief one single time.

Matthew 12:6

But I say unto you, That in this place IS ONE GREATER THAN THE TEMPLE.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Ezekiel 40:39 And in the porch of the gate were two tables on this side, and two tables on that side, to slay thereon the burnt offering and THE SIN OFFERING and the TRESPASS OFFERING.

Ezekiel 42:13 Then said he unto me, The north chambers and the south chambers, which are before the separate place, they be holy chambers, where the priests that approach unto the LORD shall eat the MOST HOLY THINGS: there shall they lay the MOST HOLY THINGS, and the meat offering, and the SIN OFFERING, and the TRESPASS OFFERING; for THE PLACE IS HOLY.

Ezekiel 43:19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord GOD, a young bullock for a SIN OFFERING.

Ezekiel 43:21-22 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it IN THE APPOINTED PLACE OF THE HOUSE, without the sanctuary. And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the GOATS without blemish for A SIN OFFERING; and they shall CLEANSE THE ALTAR, as they did CLEANSE IT with the bullock.

Ezekiel 43:25-27 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day A GOAT FOR A SIN OFFERING: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish. Seven days shall they PURGE THE ALTAR AND PURIFY IT; and they shall consecrate themselves. And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your PEACE OFFERINGS; and I WILL ACCEPT YOU, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 44:29-30 They shall eat the meat offering, and the SIN OFFERING, and the TRESPASS OFFERING; and every dedicated thing in Israel shall be theirs. And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest's: ye shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause the blessing to rest in thine house.

Ezekiel 45:17-23 And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the SIN OFFERING, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and THE PEACE OFFERINGS, TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary: And the priest shall take of THE BLOOD OF THE SIN OFFERING, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court. And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erreth, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house. In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten. And upon that day shall THE PRINCE SHALL PREPARE FOR HIMSELF AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND A BULLOCK FOR A SIN OFFERING. And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the GOATS daily for a SIN OFFERING.

Ezekiel 45:25 In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to THE SIN OFFERING, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.

Ezekiel 46:20 Then said he unto me, This is the place where the priests shall boil the TRESPASS OFFERING and THE SIN OFFERING, where they shall bake the meat offering; that they bear them not out into the utter court, to sanctify the people.

Sean please explain why there are all the sin sacrificing going on in this temple? Who is the Prince? Who is not only performing a sacrifice, but a sin sacrifice, not only for the people, but for Himself?

These sacrifices are being offered for the people, and the prince in order to bring reconciliation? Sean, please explain why this is happening since Jesus Christ was the final sacrifice? Also Sean, please show how Hebrews 10 doesn't refutes the idea of Ezekiel's temple being something supposed to happen in the future.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sean

So that means, even after the "temples" of God are raptured, the sinners left behind ARE HIS TEMPLES?

Replacement Theology, huh Loren. Ya just could not resist stealing the promise of Jeremiah 31 from future Israel again...Shame on you, RT MAN!

Sorry Sean as I don't believe in the rapture, so your point is moot. There WAS a resurrection of the dead, and those living were changed, so that they die they go straight to be with the Lord, same as us today. We are change by the spirit of God when we become saved. And we go straight to be with God when we die.