Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sean, what are the living waters mentioned in verse 8? Do you believe those waters to be literal waters or spiritual?

Yes.


The problem with your interpretation of Zechariah 13-14 is that there is too much spiritual in there for it to work with your literal physical interpretation.

My "interpretation" is simply believing what it says.

I am not wanting to fight with you but most of us have already been over this ground already. This is exactly some of the verses that turned many away from dispensationalism and it's total literal physical view.

Hey bro., It also heals the polluted waters of the Tribulation period.

May I ask you this?

What happened to your faith in the supernatural miracles of God over the years.

Why cannot there be a supernatural river proceeding from the throne as it says?

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Sean

Hey bro., It also heals the polluted waters of the Tribulation period.

May I ask you this?

What happened to your faith in the supernatural miracles of God over the years.

Why cannot there be a supernatural river proceeding from the throne as it says?

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

First of all, you did not answer the question of literal or physical waters. Choose one or the other. A or B. L or P.

Second of all, who says my faith in the supernatural miracles has diminished?

I absolutely positively believe in the supernatural and miraculous.

But then again, I see why you ask that question. You are saying that the river coming out will be a supernatural miraculous river. Gotcha!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

First of all, you did not answer the question of literal or physical waters. Choose one or the other. A or B. L or P.

Second of all, who says my faith in the supernatural miracles has diminished?

I absolutely positively believe in the supernatural and miraculous.

But then again, I see why you ask that question. You are saying that the river coming out will be a supernatural miraculous river. Gotcha!

It is like the water from the rock in the wilderness.

It was real, and it sustained life, but it was also supernatural in its' nature.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Sean, when Jesus said out of your belly shall flow RIVERS of living waters. Did Jesus mean literal rivers would gush out of your stomach?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean, when Jesus said out of your belly shall flow RIVERS of living waters. Did Jesus mean literal rivers would gush out of your stomach?

Yes. To God, this is what He sees, when you speak in tongues.

God sees the invisible things that we cannot.....

11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.


If you are deeply involved in tongues, have you noticed you can even feel it(the Holy Ghost) coming from the stomach/diaphragm area?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yes. To God, this is what He sees, when you speak in tongues.

God sees the invisible things that we cannot.....

11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.


If you are deeply involved in tongues, have you noticed you can even feel it(the Holy Ghost) coming from the stomach/diaphragm area?

Sean, you answered in the affirmative to my post but then recanted your yes by stating something else. I asked if you believed that actual RIVERS of living water would physically come out of your stomach. Would you like to try again?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean, you answered in the affirmative to my post but then recanted your yes by stating something else. I asked if you believed that actual RIVERS of living water would physically come out of your stomach. Would you like to try again?

It, SPIRITUALLY proceeds from our stomach as the Jesus said it would.

The Spiritual is just as real as the physical.

Whether you believe it or not, Jesus was not lying here....

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)


It would be disheartening, to say the least, to find out Jesus was lying all along about His Spirit, as seen by Him as living water, proceeding from our bellies.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

It, SPIRITUALLY proceeds from our stomach as the Jesus said it would.

The Spiritual is just as real as the physical.

Whether you believe it or not, Jesus was not lying here....

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)


It would be disheartening, to say the least, to find out Jesus was lying all along about His Spirit, as seen by Him as living water, proceeding from our bellies.

Like I said, I posted you a question if you believed the rivers out of the stomach were physical, and you posted back in the affirmative, yet recanted your affirmation by NOW saying it's SPIRITUAL?

Sean you haven't a clue what your talking about or what you even believe.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Like I said, I posted you a question if you believed the rivers out of the stomach were physical, and you posted back in the affirmative, yet recanted your affirmation by NOW saying it's SPIRITUAL?

Sean you haven't a clue what your talking about or what you even believe.

Back to your kennel....