Love One Another and the Cross

[shazeep]

well, i could bring up no law but love, and a bunch of other verses, but honestly i am just out of steam here, and anyone can do the same Bible search of love one another that i can. I suggest that you have come up with a law to get saved, and it is obviously used that way. One will be revealed by their fruit, in the end.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

well, i could bring up no law but love, and a bunch of other verses, but honestly i am just out of steam here, and anyone can do the same Bible search of love one another that i can. I suggest that you have come up with a law to get saved, and it is obviously used that way. One will be revealed by their fruit, in the end.

You are not providing anything. Again, it's been said before, so it likely won't do anything, but it's still truth. The work of the cross is the means to get rid of sin, and aside from that sin is not removed no matter what degree of love there is. Loving one another does not save us because we're not saved by works. If you want to talk about love saving us, it's Jesus Christ's love that saved us and it was done through dying for us. No other love can save us. Not ours not anyone else's. You or I loving people does not save anyone.

Again, show me otherwise. We all know we are supposed to love one another. But that is not done in order to get saved. Show me the apostles teaching that as a plan of salvation. It's a matter of getting the cart before the horse.

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Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

1 John 2:1-2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: (2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

THAT is the doctrine in 1 John that saves. Christ died for us.

A commandment can be one of many... don't murder. But that doesn't save you any more than love one another saves you.

By saying LAW we inadvertently says salvation is by works. Do you agree you are preaching salvation by works, since it seems so since muslims teach salvation by works, when you say this? Is salvation by works, Shazeep?

If people love their neighbours and don't know the cross nor consciously applied it to their lives as their means of salvation, are they saved, shazeep?