Terrorist Attacks In Paris

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Would to God they all be saved.

I still contend that should your wives and/or children be under assault, you would defend them rather than trust God for a miracle.

These fear-mongering, panic-inducing scenarios are ungodly.

No one has any power over me and my family except it be given to them from Above, and if given from Above, though the Lord slay us, yet in Him will we trust.

My feet are shod with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace. How about yours?

We can "would to God" all we want, but Muslims don't get converted by the sword any more than anyone else in the world.

We are emissaries of the Lord of Peace. Can we act like it? Can we be still be Christ-like under the hardest situations or only when it's easy and convenient?

The Lord just might put this whole "Christian" nation, and the Apostolic Church within her borders, to the test just to find out.

And from the rhetoric I'm seeing and hearing all over the place, this "Christian" nation and the Apostolic Church within her borders hasn't gotten off to a good start.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

These fear-mongering, panic-inducing scenarios are ungodly.

No one has any power over me and my family except it be given to them from Above, and if given from Above, though the Lord slay us, yet in Him will we trust.

My feet are shod with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace. How about yours?

We can "would to God" all we want, but Muslims don't get converted by the sword any more than anyone else in the world.

We are emissaries of the Lord of Peace. Can we act like it? Can we be still be Christ-like under the hardest situations or only when it's easy and convenient?

The Lord just might put this whole "Christian" nation, and the Apostolic Church within her borders, to the test just to find out.

And from the rhetoric I'm seeing and hearing all over the place, this "Christian" nation and the Apostolic Church within her borders hasn't gotten off to a good start.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

These fear-mongering, panic-inducing scenarios are ungodly.

These scenarios are very relevant to the discussion. These terrorists would most certainly rape our women and accost our children. Every one of you would physically defend your families, even laying down your lives if necessary. It's dishonest to pretend you wouldn't. THAT is ungodly.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

These scenarios are very relevant to the discussion. These terrorists would most certainly rape our women and accost our children. Every one of you would physically defend your families, even laying down your lives if necessary. It's dishonest to pretend you wouldn't. THAT is ungodly.

What terrorists? Where are they, within our borders? How close to my neck of the woods are they? There is no clear and present threat presented to SE WI by any terrorist. How about where you live?

That's why these scenarios are mere fear-mongering.

Yes, terrorist actions are happening in the world; suffering and the evil that causes it, abounds. This isn't about being denial. But let's also not invent things that aren't actually happening for the sake of "discussion".

Many Christians in this country are losing their resolve to trust God because the insidious news media has preached fear, loss, suffering, and terror for so long too many of us have bought what they were selling.

I mean, was David just spit-balling, talking shop? Or did he give us Spirit-inspired words of encouragement, to strengthen our trust in the Almighty?

Psalm 11,

1. In the Lord put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
2. For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
3. If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
4. The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5. The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6. Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
7. For the righteous Lord loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

I mean, was David just spit-balling, talking shop? Or did he give us Spirit-inspired words of encouragement, to strengthen our trust in the Almighty? Psalm 11,

David trusted in the Lord, but he still sent a rock to kill the giant.
David trusted in the Lord, but he still used a real sword to fight his enemies.

It is an idiotic notion that we must simply trust in the Lord and do nothing to protect ourselves.

When I was in the Army, I had no problem praying and trusting in the Lord, yet I still carried my M16 and made sure that it and all my other equipment was operational.
Yes I trusted in the Lord, but I still was an Expert Marksman.

Abraham the father of the faithful (he is my spiritual father) armed 314 servants and with them and two other allied princes went to fight a war that liberated his nephew Lot.

If Abraham had a silly do nothing faith and leave it al to God, he would have just prayed and stayed in his tent and not risk his life and the lives of his servants in an attack against the invading army.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

David trusted in the Lord, but he still sent a rock to kill the giant.
David trusted in the Lord, but he still used a real sword to fight his enemies.

It is an idiotic notion that we must simply trust in the Lord and do nothing to protect ourselves.

When I was in the Army, I had no problem praying and trusting in the Lord, yet I still carried my M16 and made sure that it and all my other equipment was operational.
Yes I trusted in the Lord, but I still was an Expert Marksman.

Abraham the father of the faithful (he is my spiritual father) armed 314 servants and with them and two other allied princes went to fight a war that liberated his nephew Lot.

If Abraham had a silly do nothing faith and leave it al to God, he would have just prayed and stayed in his tent and not risk his life and the lives of his servants in an attack against the invading army.

Great OT stories where they were still stabbing and slabbing. But, please produce all the New Testament examples of apostles and Jesus throwing down with the Judeans.

Had an old brother 92, in his kitchen with his young wife of 87, some creeps break into their apt while they were in bed. Dragged both of them out of bed looking for valuables. Brother Brian, told the guy this, silver and gold I have none, but what I have I will give it unto you. He began to pray and (I know some might not like this) but started speaking with tongues. His wife joined in and those crack heads left. Walked out, gone.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

These scenarios are very relevant to the discussion. These terrorists would most certainly rape our women and accost our children. Every one of you would physically defend your families, even laying down your lives if necessary. It's dishonest to pretend you wouldn't. THAT is ungodly.

DB, I think you are having an old life crisis, bro, how many fights have you been in during your life time? I mean you ain't some young dude. So, I would guess getting up out of bed isn't with a leap. Therefore I don't think you would fair well with your blankets hiked over your head by an assailant, while he is putting down some Bs onto your cranium. Or worse than that a bullet to the temple, while you are sawing wood off in REM sleep. As far as my wife being assaulted, she was living by herself in a neighborhood in a bad section of the city. She had situations go down but she would lift her hands and pray. What was she supposed to do? Do a little Mr Miyagi "paint the fence?"

Dude, we had an old Colombian sister who told a story how she and another sister were out crossing a field. The rancher didn't like Pentecostals. So, he let out his steer. The animal charged the two sisters, and Sister Esasa, held up her Bible and said JESUS! The animal stopped and turned around.

One of the brother minister's abuelita was walking with her granddaughter through an alley, when they were attacked. One of the attackers grabbed her pocketbook. He took of running, and she screamed out JESUS! He fell flat on his face, she walked over and picked up her pocket book, praising God as she walked away.

DB, trust Jesus, HE still in the fire!

[Praxeas]