Dialogue with a Muslim

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, i don't grasp why a Christian would want to quote what Islam teaches, anyway--it seems expressly for the purpose of making or finding a division to me. And i don't think that is "judging," but "condemning;" although the two words are used somewhat interchangeably, in poor translations. I note that when I quote the Bible (not the OP Bible; the one the rest of us uses) I am equally called to be "judging," so my best reply to that might be "what have i to do with judging (condemning) outsiders?"

Beloved, please receive this in the Spirit of Christ.

If anyone compares one writing to another, it must be firstly to find common
ground. On not finding common ground, but instead finding there too many
contradictions, then one must move on to comparing the spiritual with what
the Holy Spirit has given us to enable one to judge Truth. Judging not to condemn,
but to examine ourselves.

Much of the Q'uran, it seems to me, is grounded on teachings similar to those
in Old Testament doctrine, and are not meant to affect the Church today for,
"Behold, all things are past away; all things are become new." Since the
resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and the outpouring of the
Holy Spirit upon ALL flesh, the things pertaining to the Law are passed away,
and we are now governed by the Spirit of Life and not of death (we, that is,
that have received the Promise of the Spirit unto salvation).

Are we excluding anyone? Of course not: for "...He is the propitiation for our
sins, and not for ours only, but for the whole world." Does that include all
faiths? Yes, it does. You see, the Holy Spirit was poured out upon ALL flesh
to cause us to believe; however, not [everyone] has believed! There are too
many individuals, denominations, and faiths that are content in their (sic)
partial truth,, their own intelligence, etc., and they will forbear.

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not Be not unto your own
understanding. In ALL your ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct
your paths."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Beloved, please receive this in the Spirit of Christ.

If anyone compares one writing to another, it must be firstly to find common
ground.

you might note that i have compared no writings, but rather just took the passages quoted to me, and carried them out to their conclusions, which seems invariably to be "love." You have to admit that "If you have love, you have God" is practically at odds with most of what OP teaches--by reputation, surely, if not intent.

And so, a follower is led to "They are all lost" by "We are all saved," which Scripture does not support. All of the Scriptures you might quote, as well as continuing on to "love," place one's salvation as future tense. Every one of them, as near as i can tell.