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Old 02-01-2016, 10:34 AM
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To which I replied...

And you bailed with last post I showed before this..
see that "i'll be your huckleberry" is bailing from the outset, though, Mike--it is "ok, i'll humor you," right? (btw, who is "we?")

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Old 02-01-2016, 10:37 AM
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Sounds like God (not allah, but the Creator of heaven and earth), has been
left out of the equation.


Whether that nation, or that person or circumstance, is real or hypothetically
described; whether that nation is Syria or Libya, or Mexico or Guatemala, it
portrays the natural (sinful) mind in the natural (sinful) ways of this world.
As long as people reject the counsel of the Living God to react in their sinful
and unrighteous ways to become as hateful as those around them, we will always
have "...wars and rumors of wars."

"For nations (countries) shall rise up against nations, and kingdoms
(individuals) against kingdoms; and there shall be wars and rumors of
wars..."
nice! I might argue that no one knows God's Name, but whatever. Are you a patriot?
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:41 AM
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the Christian Right position, in a nutshell.

no... more the reasonable human position.


vapid beyond belief .


The very idea that anyone opposes unvetted Syrian migration because a single person killed 9 folk over there is asinine. It is utterly vapid and it is dishonest ON PURPOSE AND FOR A PURPOSE.


If you believe that pile of junk, then in my humble opinion there is something wrong with you and you need to see someone about it.
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:06 PM
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what a humble guy you are, ty.

for my part, i can admit that the post does not exactly reflect my position, either; but it is the position of many, and your scoffing makes it no less so.
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Old 02-01-2016, 03:11 PM
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what a humble guy you are, ty.

for my part, i can admit that the post does not exactly reflect my position, either; but it is the position of many, and your scoffing makes it no less so.

well there you go.

glad that doesn't reflect your viewpoint.

its not one worth a plugged nickel. and those that do see it that way do so from the American lazy idiocy that seems to permeate society.

its ignorant on its face.


The fact is ISIS has stated they were going to send terrorists among the refugees. Every single time these people have said they were going to do something they do it.

allowing them in without vetting properly is suicide. not because these poor people aren't good enough, rather because the bad guys just told us what they were going to do.

and im in a bad mood today. my potassium is low so im eating bananas. I hate bananans. I mean I really hate them. its the only food that I don't like. they taste nasty.

im eating them.

im already mad.
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Old 02-01-2016, 03:22 PM
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ya, potassium is a pain

we were just discussing it earlier; here are all of the choices with more than a banana--kind of revealing

Winter squash, cubed, 1 cup, cooked: 896 mg
Sweet potato, medium, baked with skin: 694 mg
Potato, medium, baked with skin: 610 mg
White beans, canned, drained, half cup: 595 mg
Yogurt, fat-free, 1 cup: 579 mg
Halibut, 3 ounces, cooked: 490 mg
100% orange juice, 8 ounces: 496 mg
Broccoli, 1 cup, cooked: 457 mg
Cantaloupe, cubed, 1 cup: 431 mg
Banana, 1 medium: 422 mg

can't imagine how I'd get the recommended 5g a day, though! I hardly eat that much in 3 days

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see that "i'll be your huckleberry" is bailing from the outset, though, Mike--it is "ok, i'll humor you," right? (btw, who is "we?")
No bail implied. I was serious, regardless of what that phrase means to you.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:46 PM
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ok well my proof would be similar to your proof of the Muslim's lostness, or his proof of your lostness; insubstantial, legalistic, and meaningless. The point is that anyone can find some "proof" that anyone else is lost; yet all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. A physical analogue is surely two siblings arguing about who started it. You are lost when you judge/condemn, and this is a central tenet of Christ, if not Christianity.
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ok well my proof would be similar to your proof of the Muslim's lostness, or his proof of your lostness; insubstantial, legalistic, and meaningless. The point is that anyone can find some "proof" that anyone else is lost; yet all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. A physical analogue is surely two siblings arguing about who started it. You are lost when you judge/condemn, and this is a central tenet of Christ, if not Christianity.
That would be true if I judged anyone.
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You are lost when you judge/condemn, and this is a central tenet of Christ, if not Christianity.
Not one bible verse says 'you are lost if you judge/condemn'. This is a central tenet of Shazeepianity, not Christ nor Christianity.

A person who does not show mercy will not be shown mercy. A person who does not forgive those who trespass against him will not be forgiven by God of his trespasses against heaven. A person who judges and condemns others unrighteously is either unrighteous already (the 'condemning being merely a symptom of a larger issue), or is being foolish and ignorant and falling into unscriptural and unChristian (unallowed) behaviours.

But identifying those who deny the Son of God, who reject the Gospel, and who teach lies and falsehoods in the name of other gods and on behalf of false prophets is not 'judging/condemning' in the sense you are using it.

We are commanded to 'judge righteous judgment. We are commanded to test the spirits whether they are of God, because there are many false prophets gone out into the world. And the way those spirits are tested is both practically AND doctrinally.

You have invented your own religion, borrowed mostly from humanistic and nihilistic 'post-modernism', and rather than being honest and brave enough to declare your new thing, you try to pass it off as 'historic Christian truth, originally taught by Jesus'.

You hate Christians and Christianity yet are obsessed with convincing yourself you are 'a real Christian' or something. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, nobody - and I mean NOBODY - buys this nonsense you are peddling as 'the REAL truth about the gospel'. Only you.

Must be a guilty conscience about something lol.
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