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04-17-2016, 06:57 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
Please read my post. I said it is non apostolic and neo cultish nonsense to claim that non Hebrew speaking people OUGHT to use Yeshua. Which is what has been claimed: the "real" name is Yeshua, Jesus/Iesous is a "bad transliteration", etc.
The apostles never taught such a thing, God never intended such a thing, and the supporters of this doctrine have zero scripture to stand on - which means the sacred namers are following personal preference over Bible... which is not apostolic... and would like to see others do so as well.
What other made up doctrines "ought" we to follow?
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04-17-2016, 07:11 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Maybe they did, we just have no record of it. 
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So, the New Testamnent is a Hellenized train wreck and has to be pieced back together in Hebrew? Wow. Maybe the Apostles taught baptism for the dead, maybe the Apostles taught praying to the dead, maybe the Apostles taught reincarnation, maybe the Apostles taught counting prayer beads, maybe the Apostles taught a Trinity, maybe the Apostles taught suicide salvation, we just don't have "ANY" record for it.
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04-17-2016, 07:14 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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You do consider Paul an Apostle, don't you?
The Apostle Paul Spoke Hebrew and even Jesus spoke Hebrew that is in the Bible. so you are going to disregard this Apostolic doctrine? 
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Maybe as Paul was speaking Aramaic he used Jesus' Hellenized name.
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04-17-2016, 07:15 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Please read my post. I said it is non apostolic and neo cultish nonsense to claim that non Hebrew speaking people OUGHT to use Yeshua. Which is what has been claimed: the "real" name is Yeshua, Jesus/Iesous is a "bad transliteration", etc.
The apostles never taught such a thing, God never intended such a thing, and the supporters of this doctrine have zero scripture to stand on - which means the sacred namers are following personal preference over Bible... which is not apostolic... and would like to see others do so as well.
What other made up doctrines "ought" we to follow?
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Amen
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04-17-2016, 07:19 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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How did Nicodemus get named Nicodemus?
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Wasn't this HELLENIZED Judean part of Judean leadership?
Any of the Hebrewists care to explain why the Judean had a exclusive Ancient Greek name?
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04-17-2016, 07:20 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Johanan Marcus known as John Mark has a Hebrew and Latin name? Why?
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04-17-2016, 10:31 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Esaias
That non Hebrew speakers ought to use the Hebrew version of the name is a non apostolic doctrine, as you already admitted. Therefore, I no longer have any interest in this neo-cultic nonsense.
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you are using the same argument that non-Sabbath keepers use to disregard the Holy Sabbath.
That non Hebrew believers ought to use the Hebrew version of the Sabbath is a non apostolic doctrine, as you already admitted. Therefore, I no longer have any interest in this neo-cultic nonsense.
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04-17-2016, 10:44 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
you are using the same argument that non-Sabbath keepers use to disregard the Holy Sabbath.
That non Hebrew believers ought to use the Hebrew version of the Sabbath is a non apostolic doctrine, as you already admitted. Therefore, I no longer have any interest in this neo-cultic nonsense. 
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And now you aren't making ANY sense whatsoever.
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04-17-2016, 10:45 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Esther is a Persian name, we have the book of Esther, but her real name was Hadassah.
So just because we call her Esther does it mean her real name was not Hadassah?
Every Christian knows the name of Esther, but few know her as Hadassah, does it mean her name Hadassah is a false name?
So just because we call him Jesus does it mean his real name was not Yeshua?
Every Christian knows the name of Jesus, but few know him as Yeshua does it mean his name Yeshua is a false name?
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04-17-2016, 10:49 AM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
Is Hadassah in the OT? Is Yeshua in the NT?
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