The UPCI Ordains Women Pastors?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

As long as a woman is operating under her husband's blessing (if married) and has a male elder in authority over her, I say she should be free to follow whatever calling God lays upon her heart.

Sounds like a can o worms. A husband can't give the ok for his wife to be a preacher. Where in the scripture do we find that?

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sounds like a can o worms. A husband can't give the ok for his wife to be a preacher. Where in the scripture do we find that?

I agree.

A woman that usurps authority over men . . . VS . . . having
her husbands permission to usurp authority . . . ?????

But what do the scriptures say and TEACH?

[thephnxman]

"...whosoever will DIRECT HIS CONVERSATION ARIGHT..."

A preacher does not necessarily hold an office in the Ministry;
even as one who prophesies does not necessarily hold an office
as a prophet in the Ministry.

Most of the definitions of preacher / Minister, etc., have been
adopted from denoms that do not have the fullness of the Holy
Spirit. No one can understand scripture without it . . . it's hard
enough to attain knowledge WITH the Holy Spirit (our natural
wisdom gets in the way).

"...I will show the salvation of God."

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sounds like a can o worms. A husband can't give the ok for his wife to be a preacher. Where in the scripture do we find that?

We know that wives are called to be submitted to their husbands. A woman with a call on her life who had an unbelieving husband who refused to release her to follow her call would be in violation of this Christian admonition if she rebelled and "preached" anyways. Thus, she'd be disqualified from preaching. However, if her unbelieving husband humored her and allowed her to preach and follow her leading, she'd not be in violation of any submission requirement.

Also we read,

1 Peter 3:7
Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

If the marital relationship between husband and wife is strained or isn't set within God's order, the couple's prayers can be hindered. I'd imagine that if a wife's desire to minister brought strife to the home due to her unbelieving husband's opposition to her faith, her prayers might be hindered.

So, in the end, the way I see it, if a woman's husband (believing or unbelieving) encourages her calling and she is submitted to the elders of the church she is well within the boundaries of biblical authority.

[Steve Epley]

Azusa is not the model the NT is the model. just saying.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Azusa is not the model the NT is the model. just saying.