Does the golden rule save without the cross?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

"Salvation is far more than just believing the statement that salvation is found in the Lord Jesus Christ. So many come to the front in our churches today, and when the preacher asks them, "Are you trusting Jesus?" say, "Yes, I'm trusting Him." My friend, that is not salvation! Salvation is much more than a call, or an invitation to sinners to receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. Salvation is more than just believing the Word that Christ died for sinners, and reasoning that since I am a sinner, Christ died for me.


Salvation is even more than an awakened sinner coming to rest upon the promises of God, because salvation is not resting upon the Word, nor just believing the Word. You can believe the Word and go to Hell! You can rest upon a promise and wake up in Hell. Salvation is even more than resting upon the finished work of Christ upon the cross. Salvation is far more than a decision for Christ, or taking your stand for Christ.Salvation is far more than just believing the statement that salvation is found in the Lord Jesus Christ. So many come to the front in our churches today, and when the preacher asks them, "Are you trusting Jesus?" say, "Yes, I'm trusting Him." My friend, that is not salvation! Salvation is much more than a call, or an invitation to sinners to receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. Salvation is more than just believing the Word that Christ died for sinners, and reasoning that since I am a sinner, Christ died for me."

No Muslim believes that!

You are spiritually bipolar.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No Muslim believes that!

it is irrelevant to me what a Muslim believes, if they have faith in God. What is relevant to me here is "teachers" who cannot witness any sins against them teaching hate as being Christian, which is i guess what you believe. And i think that has been pretty thoroughly dismantled at this point, so unless you would like to explore your own beliefs some more, or rather, stridently defend them so that others might see, or maybe bash Trinnies if you're Oneness, or Oneness if you're Trinny, whatever, which i couldn't be much help with anyway, then nice talking with you.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

it is irrelevant to me what a Muslim believes, if they have faith in God.

Well that's typical of you. Your belief system is totally motivated by your whims. Do your parents still support you? Do you get a monthly stipend from a trust? What is it you actually do for a living? Do you also believe the world is flat and the pyramids were built by giants 300 feet tall?

Originally Posted by shazeep

What is relevant to me

Yes indeed. It's always about you. You see, God isn't God. You are god, and what pops up in your mind, and if it feels good to you. It's law, and should be taken serious by all the other pygmies around you. You are the one eyed man and sadly with are the pygmy blind. We need to gather at your feet, because after all, it only has to be relevant to you.

Originally Posted by shazeep

What is relevant to me here is "teachers" who cannot witness any sins against them teaching hate as being Christian, which is i guess what you believe.

Well, you guess wrong again. But that's the way you want it. Can't witness any sins against "them?" Sir, this may seem like a shock to you but they believe the teachings of devils and therefore since they believe a teaching of devils they are led away from the Cross of Christ. They don't believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. The Jesus who they supposedly believe in is another Jesus. One who is totally different from the one found in the Bible. Yet, you could care less about any of that, because you have a religion based on your own measure, your own standard. You no more care about what Muslims believe as you do on what the Bible says.

Hey, you have your own personal Jesus.

Originally Posted by shazeep

And i think that has been pretty thoroughly dismantled at this point, so unless you would like to explore your own beliefs some more, or rather, stridently defend them so that others might see, or maybe bash Trinnies if you're Oneness, or Oneness if you're Trinny, whatever, which i couldn't be much help with anyway, then nice talking with you.

There you again. It's all about you. You against the world, standing akimbo, proclaiming YOUR truthisms to all those who will listen. You beat your little tin drum and when someone is foolish enough to tell you..."no." You start your campain against them. Oh, Deacon Blues, I know it's spelled wrong, please forgive me.