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Old 09-05-2016, 06:28 PM
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The jewels of ornamentation of the body in the old became the jewels of the heart today.

The marriage of polygamy and the wife in whom God chose in the old is compared the devotion of da Saint to the bridegroom today. And the Acts2:38 bride he wants.

Exodus 20:3
Thou shalt have no other Gods before me..

Beautiful I say!
So would it be beautiful to use a homosexual relationship and illustrate God's love for the church?
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So would it be beautiful to use a homosexual relationship and illustrate God's love for the church?

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Isaiah 20:2 At the same time spake the Lord by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. 3 And the Lord said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot
With your interpretion of scripture I guess since God commanded Isaiah to walk naked then we cannot preach against modesty literally. We must only be modest in out hearts.
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With your interpretion of scripture I guess since God commanded Isaiah to walk naked then we cannot preach against modesty literally. We must only be modest in out hearts.
If you quoted the whole thing you would see he used a shameful thing to show a shameful fulfillment. So, again, doesn't work. You need a shameful thing to show a godly thing to make your position work.
Isa 20:2-3....At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. ..(3)....And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;
Isa 20:4....So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
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So would it be beautiful to use a homosexual relationship and illustrate God's love for the church?
I think the issue IZ we as humans try to justify and recycle what God has put out and drawn a line in scripture wheather by line or precept. Like you are doing. Homosexuality has never been exceptible, why are you defending them, what is this obsession of your to compare this ungodly deed?! Homosexuality has never been exceptible, God has been working with man to overcome and reach further forward not backward. Your saying it was right then do it must be right now, I say it was a proven snare to Gods people and now is unexcepable. The Old Testament is full of types and shadows of things to come. The Achilles' heel Of Prederism.
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I think the issue IZ we as humans try to justify and recycle what God has put out and drawn a line in scripture wheather by line or precept. Like you are doing. Homosexuality has never been exceptible, why are you defending them, what is this obsession of your to compare this ungodly deed?! Homosexuality has never been exceptible, God has been working with man to overcome and reach further forward not backward. Your saying it was right then do it must be right now, I say it was a proven snare to Gods people and now is unexcepable. The Old Testament is full of types and shadows of things to come. The Achilles' heel Of Prederism.
The word is "acceptable".

And its not pred...

Anyway, God does not use sinful pictures to show godly realities. By the same token, God does not use something that was a SNARE to people to illustrate something godly. You are saying jewelry was acceptable but is now sin, while homosexuality never was acceptable and it is not now. lol I agree homosexuality never was acceptable. But it's ridiculous to say jewelry was acceptable and now is sin.

Types pointing to things to come is the achilles heel of preterism? How? (I'd like to debate you on prophecy.)

Anyway, there was NOTHING acceptable in the old testament that God used as an illustration of a spiritual reality where the literal type is is sinful now. NOTHING.
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The word is "acceptable".

And its not pred...

Anyway, God does not use sinful pictures to show godly realities. By the same token, God does not use something that was a SNARE to people to illustrate something godly. You are saying jewelry was acceptable but is now sin, while homosexuality never was acceptable and it is not now. lol I agree homosexuality never was acceptable. But it's ridiculous to say jewelry was acceptable and now is sin.

Types pointing to things to come is the achilles heel of preterism? How? (I'd like to debate you on prophecy.)

Anyway, there was NOTHING acceptable in the old testament that God used as an illustration of a spiritual reality where the literal type is is sinful now. NOTHING.
This has always been God's way. To reveal the weakness of the flesh by allowing humanity to indulge in their own will and ignorance. The reason that the adorning the body with jewelry has been a snare to God's people, was because of the pride of the flesh that arose when adorned this way. Because in the flesh you have no understanding of the perfect will of God. Now that we are a people of the Spirit our understanding has been enlightened.

1 Corinthians 1:29 That NO flesh should glory in his presence!

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Romans 7:5-13
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness ofthe letter.

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence.

For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Was then that which is good made death unto me?

God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good;

that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.....

Romans 8:3-8
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh;

but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
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there was NOTHING acceptable in the old testament that God used as an illustration of a spiritual reality where the literal type is is sinful now. NOTHING.
Yeah..
Go ahead and start practicing da Levitical Law. See where that gets you.

Straight to hell brother.

Lolo I say !?!?
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