Did we get the Swaggart scandal wrong? (V)

[shazeep]

if the accusations are baseless, then they should not be hard to refute, right? You guys realize the distinct comparison that can be made here to blaming the Russkies or whomever, anyone, rather than examining the emails and proceeding according to your own law? Houston, do i need to quote some Scripture to convince you or something? Is accusation manifesting humility here, or defensiveness? How do OPs examine themselves? Oh, snap, the same way Corporations do, huh.

you can either get defensive at restatements, or see that they are invitations to rebuttal. I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth; if one of my restatements is inaccurate then by all means point out how. I understand that they are likely just what i heard, not what you meant.

you have an open invitation to return to where your arguments were misunderstood, and i don't see anyone picking up that mantle. Are you saying you want to actually support some of your so far pointless rhetoric, Dordt, or what? Would you like me to support this charge, with a quote maybe, or do you just want to rest in "i am the victim here, and God will surely vindicate me?" You got an example of where i put words in your mouth?

Because i don't believe you, and i don't believe you even believe you.

[Dordrecht]

Shazeep: Because i don't believe you, and i don't believe you even believe you.

This is crazy.
I don't have time for this nonsense anymore.

Maybe others do, but i don't.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

This is crazy.
I don't have time for this nonsense anymore.

Maybe others do, but i don't.

He asks to point out his lies we accuse him of making, and we do, and he asks wondering why we're not pointing them out and substantiating them.

He wanted to dialogue so I said he has to stop his lies first. He asks what were lies, and when I point them out he acts like I never pointed them out.

I am done as well.

Total waste of time.

[Dordrecht]

Yup.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

This is crazy.
I don't have time for this nonsense anymore.

Maybe others do, but i don't.

ah, back to Righteously Indignant now, are we? that's what happens when you run out of rhetoric, and still can't defend your point. Any time you'd like to have a real conversation, it got dropped in like 5 different places, we can go back and pick it from from one of those. Til then you guys just be good little victims, cause that's all you got.

[mfblume]

No, we don't waste rime with lying posters. Keep twisting our reasons, for you already twisted our intentions and points. Run and don't dialogue when we post alleged lies and ask you to deal with our responses and explanations to them. You are posing yourself as a victim, ironically.

We didn't dismissed this as victims. We want you to deal with the lies so they can stop and we can talk. How is that running like victims?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

if the accusations are baseless, then they should not be hard to refute, right? You guys realize the distinct comparison that can be made here to blaming the Russkies or whomever, anyone, rather than examining the emails and proceeding according to your own law? Houston, do i need to quote some Scripture to convince you or something? Is accusation manifesting humility here, or defensiveness? How do OPs examine themselves? Oh, snap, the same way Corporations do, huh.

you can either get defensive at restatements, or see that they are invitations to rebuttal. I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth; if one of my restatements is inaccurate then by all means point out how. I understand that they are likely just what i heard, not what you meant.

you have an open invitation to return to where your arguments were misunderstood, and i don't see anyone picking up that mantle. Are you saying you want to actually support some of your so far pointless rhetoric, Dordt, or what? Would you like me to support this charge, with a quote maybe, or do you just want to rest in "i am the victim here, and God will surely vindicate me?" You got an example of where i put words in your mouth?

Because i don't believe you, and i don't believe you even believe you.

I just laid out points where you lied. Are you even reading? lol