Did we get the Swaggart scandal wrong? (V)

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Toronto imam faces sex assault charges

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...rges-1.1078088

[shazeep]

so now we're back to pulling links off the web to judge those outside our faith, but it is not ok to examine Swaggert?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

so now we're back to pulling links off the web to judge those outside our faith, but it is not ok to examine Swaggert?

One doesn't excuse the other, but you won't post things about imams, which is only fair if you're not as biased as you are.

[Dordrecht]

Really, Shazeep, what's your purpose of being here?

If I was participating at a Bible study and a guy like you would continously try to mess up the meeting I would request the leadership to ask you to leave.

Unless of course you would change your agressive attitude against the Gospel of our Lord.

So, explain your purpose, because surely not a single born again Christian would change his/her believes because of your smooth lying forked tongue.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Really, Shazeep, what's your purpose of being here?

If I was participating at a Bible study and a guy like you would continously try to mess up the meeting I would request the leadership to ask you to leave.

Unless of course you would change your agressive attitude against the Gospel of our Lord.

So, explain your purpose, because surely not a single born again Christian would change his/her believes because of your smooth lying forked tongue.

I have made my purpose here pretty clear, and quoting Christ to mass consternation speaks for itself, Dordt. If you have a defense for "judge others, don't judge yourselves" then post it, or if i have lied then post that, because otherwise i did my best to get clarifications for some of the pretty ridiculous conclusions your camp has forwarded and now has no desire to revisit. Specifically, and not relying on rhetoric that i can't back up to make my conclusions.

If you doubt that Love your neighbor fulfills the law and prophets in some regard, then break off the mic drops and the other flossing and tell me how. So that's 3 things, pick one, and i've already been here before, too.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

quoting Christ to mass consternation

Lies.

Prove it. Itemized substantial proof. for this is one of your more famous lies.

If you have a defense for "judge others, don't judge yourselves"

We judge ourselves, so another implied lie.

if i have lied then post that

Just did several times in the last half hour.

, because otherwise i did my best to get clarifications for some of the pretty ridiculous conclusions your camp has forwarded and now has no desire to revisit. Specifically, and not relying on rhetoric that i can't back up to make my conclusions.

If you doubt that Love your neighbor fulfills the law and prophets

We do not doubt love your neighbour fulfills law and prophets.

You just won't deal with what it means to fulfill law and prophets.

So you lied again that we doubt "love your neighbour fulfills law and prophets."

in some regard, then break off the mic drops and the other flossing and tell me how. So that's 3 things, pick one, and i've already been here before, too.

Your lies are mounting up. I noted them specifically right here.

[Dordrecht]

Not much to add here.
He likes putting stuff in everybody's mouth and than starts to question it.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Not much to add here.
He likes putting stuff in everybody's mouth and than starts to question it.

He accuses the brethren. Reminds me of someone...

[shazeep]

if the accusations are baseless, then they should not be hard to refute, right? You guys realize the distinct comparison that can be made here to blaming the Russkies or whomever, anyone, rather than examining the emails and proceeding according to your own law? Houston, do i need to quote some Scripture to convince you or something? Is accusation manifesting humility here, or defensiveness? How do OPs examine themselves? Oh, snap, the same way Corporations do, huh.

you can either get defensive at restatements, or see that they are invitations to rebuttal. I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth; if one of my restatements is inaccurate then by all means point out how. I understand that they are likely just what i heard, not what you meant.

you have an open invitation to return to where your arguments were misunderstood, and i don't see anyone picking up that mantle. Are you saying you want to actually support some of your so far pointless rhetoric, Dordt, or what? Would you like me to support this charge, with a quote maybe, or do you just want to rest in "i am the victim here, and God will surely vindicate me?" You got an example of where i put words in your mouth?

Because i don't believe you, and i don't believe you even believe you.

[Dordrecht]

Shazeep: Because i don't believe you, and i don't believe you even believe you.

This is crazy.
I don't have time for this nonsense anymore.

Maybe others do, but i don't.